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 Post subject: Cadwalader nyc
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Anyone got a post callback offer from them? When did you do your cb and heard back?
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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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CB a little while ago. No word yet one way or the other...


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Same. Have not heard back yet.
I am getting antsy.
Anyone heard back either way?
Longest wait so far?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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I've heard universal terrible things about working here. I hear there are a healthy number of screamers and that the culture is pretty bleak. Just giving you a heads up.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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I interviewed with one of their non-NYC offices, and every single person that interviewed me started the interview by saying "it's not as bad as the blogs say. The NYC office is crazy and associates work crazy hours for demanding partners. It's way better here."

It was comical to me that every interview started that way. As if that was their big pitch.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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At callbacks, when people ask where else I"m looking, a good chunk of the time, they mention firms that I should avoid and Cadwalader is typically on the list.

Also, spoke with one associate that lateraled from Cadwalader and siad that people are BEGGING to get out. She called it the worst 2 years of her life.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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that's weird. i really enjoyed my cadwalader interview today.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Ditto to all the people who say it's a horrible place to work. Think it speaks volumes that the only person I know who wanted to summer there (and did, and received an offer) is probably the most reviled guy in my law school class.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Cadwalader has reputational issues. Is a run of the mill "did anyone here back from them" thread during OCI the appropriate place for it?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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The official word from Cadwalader is that they're trying to make it a better place to work. At least thats what it says on Chambers and other similar sources. Is there any truth to this or is it perhaps just the firm trying desperately to improve its reputation without actually making substantive changes


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Is cadwalader any more sweatshoppy than v10 firms?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Anonymous User wrote:
Is cadwalader any more sweatshoppy than v10 firms?


The reputation is that it's the same amount of sweatshop with way more yelling and throwing things at associates.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Why are we all of a sudden talking about its reputational issues...
So no offers out yet?
Anyone knows of their expected turnaround time at this point?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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We're talking about reputational issues because it's kinda like a Cooley Law School applicant asking about decisions, and wanting to make sure they understand what they're getting into. Just looking out for ya.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Anonymous User wrote:
We're talking about reputational issues because it's kinda like a Cooley Law School applicant asking about decisions, and wanting to make sure they understand what they're getting into. Just looking out for ya.


No.

Cadwalader pays its associates $160,000 per year in New York.

They could literally make you scrub toilets for 10 hours per day while blasting Mein Kampf and it would still be a job that pays six fucking figures.

A lot of people go through the 2L job hunt and wind up with one, or just a few offers. Far more don't get one at market rate, and far more still don't get anything at all.

Shitting on Cadwalader is totally unacceptable unless somebody has multiple offers and wants to choose between them. Until that point, a job with Cadwalader represents a bright future and a ridiculous sign of opulent American culture that dozens of thousands of law grads per year would kill to have a shot at.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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BUT THEY YELL AT YOU!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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fatduck wrote:
BUT THEY YELL AT YOU!!!!!!!!


Do you have any idea how many therapists you can afford, even after manhattan rent and NY income tax :lol: ?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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I interviewed there last year and I asked the interviewer what the best thing is about working for Cadwalader. His answer was the resume line you get when you leave to look for new opportunities afterward, as if a quick departure was an inevitability for those coming to the firm.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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I heard that Cadwalader NY is terrible and that even Cadwalader's other offices don't like working with them.

Some say it's tolerable/getting better/not any worse than other firms, but I have never heard of anyone saying that itis a good place to work.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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OP here. I loved the people I met there while on CB.... And I would seriously consider if I get an offer. So I am pretty anx :roll: ious.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Anonymous User wrote:
I heard that Cadwalader NY is terrible and that even Cadwalader's other offices don't like working with them.

Some say it's tolerable/getting better/not any worse than other firms, but I have never heard of anyone saying that itis a good place to work.


Cadwalader summer here. I think things HAVE improved, but it's definitely to gauge how much based only on 11 weeks. The most notorious "screamer" rainmaker partner Dennis Block has been gone for a few years. Stories of his antics were legion at the firm. The morale of the litigation department seemed especially good to me.

This isn't to say it's a better place to work at than other biglaw firms; I can't speak to that. But it doesn't seem as bad as it was a few years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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anyone heard back? knows how long to wait? bahhhh


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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What are exit options like? Do you still get recruiting calls and such as you would in the V10?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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How long do they usually take to give out CBs after a screener?


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 Post subject: Re: Cadwalader nyc
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Anonymous User wrote:
What are exit options like? Do you still get recruiting calls and such as you would in the V10?


Probably. Big firm lawyers are actually a pretty hot commodity no matter what the firm. The better your firm (and more realistically, the better the practice area you're in) the better your exit options will be, but there are a ton of variables at play beyond just what Vault says.


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