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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:45 pm

Someone posted many pages ago that a bunch of people had 8+ CBs...where are these people if top 10% + LR is at 5-6?

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

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Anyone heard of Chadbourne callbacks?

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

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Anonymous User wrote:Someone posted many pages ago that a bunch of people had 8+ CBs...where are these people if top 10% + LR is at 5-6?


Ip people are rolling in callbacks

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

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Anonymous User wrote:Someone posted many pages ago that a bunch of people had 8+ CBs...where are these people if top 10% + LR is at 5-6?


major softs.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:11 pm

So for those who got no CBs from AJF, if things don't work out from the rest of the OCI process (which is likely) then now what? Where to they find other summer work or law firm jobs post-graduation?
Any info or idea on this?

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Someone posted many pages ago that a bunch of people had 8+ CBs...where are these people if top 10% + LR is at 5-6?


i know of a few non-LR, non-IP people who have 10+. they are out there. must be the softs or interview skills or something...

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:12 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Someone posted many pages ago that a bunch of people had 8+ CBs...where are these people if top 10% + LR is at 5-6?


i know of a few non-LR, non-IP people who have 10+. they are out there. must be the softs or interview skills or something...


High performing URMs

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:16 pm

Median-ish GPA, secondary journal. Some WE. 18 screeners. Thus far, 3 CBs & 4 dings.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:26 pm

Is the URMs comment based on any actual data or just bitterness? I know of non-URMs, non-IP that are at 10+.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:31 pm

Median-ish, LR, awkward interviewer. 15 screeners, 3 CBs.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is the URMs comment based on any actual data or just bitterness? I know of non-URMs, non-IP that are at 10+.

Serious question: are they male? I know of one white non IP male who has 10+ CB's.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is the URMs comment based on any actual data or just bitterness? I know of non-URMs, non-IP that are at 10+.


Actual information. The comment wasn't meant to be passive aggressive. People asked how non-LR people with GPAs below the top 10% (closer to median and below the cut off for top 30%), and I answered the question.

For the record, I wasn't suggesting that they don't deserve it. Also, I'm a URM with multiple (albeit not 10+) callbacks, so no racism over here 8)

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:39 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Is the URMs comment based on any actual data or just bitterness? I know of non-URMs, non-IP that are at 10+.

Serious question: are they male? I know of one white non IP male who has 10+ CB's.


Yah. Females are URMs. lol.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:39 pm

Yes, male. Don't mean to deny that URM status can be an advantage...was just wondering if people had actual data (even anecdotal) to confirm that it has been a big one.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:42 pm

Did anyone actually succeeded in getting a CB out of merely handing in resume at hospitality suite, or to one of the interviewers, or from doing walk-in interviews?

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:45 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Yes, male. Don't mean to deny that URM status can be an advantage...was just wondering if people had actual data (even anecdotal) to confirm that it has been a big one.


There's not that many people with more than 5 or 6 cbs. However, the few people with 10+ CBs seem to be either tippy top of the class and/or URMs. Again, the URMs who are drowning in CBs are high performing compared with other URMs (i.e. no URM with a 1.9 is getting a CB, no matter what their ethnic/racial background is).

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Allen and Overy-email dings
Alston Bird-CBs
Arnold & Porter (DC)-CBs

Brown Rudnick-dings (assuming email)

Cadwalader-CBs/email dings
Cahill-CBs
Carter Ledyard-CBs/email dings
Chadbourne-email dings
Cleary-CBs/email dings
Clifford Chance-CBs/email dings
Cravath-CBs/email dings

Davis Polk-CBs/mail dings
Debevoise-CBs/email dings
Dechert-CBs

Freshfields-CBs
Fried Frank-email dings

Gibson Dunn-mail dings

Hogan Lovells-CBs

Jones Day-email CBs/email dings

Kasowitz-email dings
Kaye Scholer-CBs
Kirkland (NYC)-CBs/email dings

Latham-CBs
Lowenstein-snail mail dings/snail mail saying a decision will be given in september

Milbank-CBs
MoFo (China)- CBs
MoFo (Tokyo) - CBs

NYC Law Department-email dings

Paul Hastings-CBs
Paul Weiss-CBs/mail dings
Pillsbury-CBs
Proskauer-CBs

Quinn Emmanuel-CBs

Richards Layton-CBs
Ropes (NYC/Boston)-CBs

Seward-CBs
Shearman-email CBs / email dings
Shulte Roth-CBs/email dings
Simpson-CBs/email dings
Skadden-CBs/email dings
Stroock-CBs
Sullivan-CBs

Vinson and Elkins-email dings

Weil-CBs
White and Case-CBs
Willkie-CBs
WilmerHale- CBs/ email Dings
Winston Strawn-email CB

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Allen and Overy-email dings
Alston Bird-CBs
Arnold & Porter (DC)-CBs

Brown Rudnick-dings (assuming email)

Cadwalader-CBs/email dings
Cahill-CBs
Carter Ledyard-CBs/email dings
Chadbourne-email dings
Cleary-CBs/email dings
Clifford Chance-CBs/email dings
Cravath-CBs/email dings
Crowell & Moring/email dings

Davis Polk-CBs/mail dings
Debevoise-CBs/email dings
Dechert-CBs

Freshfields-CBs
Fried Frank-email dings

Gibson Dunn-mail dings

Hogan Lovells-CBs

Jones Day-email CBs/email dings

Kasowitz-email dings
Kaye Scholer-CBs
Kirkland (NYC)-CBs/email dings

Latham-CBs
Lowenstein-snail mail dings/snail mail saying a decision will be given in september

Milbank-CBs
MoFo (China)- CBs
MoFo (Tokyo) - CBs

NYC Law Department-email dings

Paul Hastings-CBs
Paul Weiss-CBs/mail dings
Pillsbury-CBs
Proskauer-CBs

Quinn Emmanuel-CBs

Richards Layton-CBs
Ropes (NYC/Boston)-CBs

Seward-CBs
Shearman-email CBs / email dings
Shulte Roth-CBs/email dings
Simpson-CBs/email dings
Skadden-CBs/email dings
Stroock-CBs
Sullivan-CBs

Vinson and Elkins-email dings

Weil-CBs
White and Case-CBs
Willkie-CBs
WilmerHale- CBs/ email Dings
Winston Strawn-email CB

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:35 pm

Allen and Overy-email dings
Alston Bird-CBs
Arnold & Porter (DC)-CBs

Brown Rudnick-dings (assuming email)

Cadwalader-CBs/email dings
Cahill-CBs
Carter Ledyard-CBs/email dings
Chadbourne-email dings
Cleary-CBs/email dings
Clifford Chance-CBs/email dings
Cravath-CBs/email dings
Crowell & Moring/email dings

Davis Polk-CBs/mail dings
Debevoise-CBs/email dings
Dechert-CBs

Freshfields-CBs
Fried Frank-email dings

Gibson Dunn-mail dings

Hogan Lovells-CBs

Jones Day-email CBs/email dings

Kasowitz-email dings
Kaye Scholer-CBs
Kirkland (NYC)-CBs/email dings

Latham-CBs
Lowenstein-snail mail dings/snail mail saying a decision will be given in september

Milbank-CBs
MoFo (China)- CBs
MoFo (Tokyo) - CBs

NYC Law Department-email dings

O'Melveny-CBs

Paul Hastings-CBs
Paul Weiss-CBs/mail dings
Pillsbury-CBs
Proskauer-CBs

Quinn Emmanuel-CBs

Richards Layton-CBs
Ropes (NYC/Boston)-CBs

Seward-CBs
Shearman-email CBs / email dings
Shulte Roth-CBs/email dings
Simpson-CBs/email dings
Skadden-CBs/email dings
Stroock-CBs
Sullivan-CBs

Vinson and Elkins-email dings

Weil-CBs
White and Case-CBs
Willkie-CBs
WilmerHale- CBs/ email Dings
Winston Strawn-email CB

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:51 pm

Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.


Can you share what their approximate GPA and softs are without outing them?

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:54 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.


Can you share what their approximate GPA and softs are without outing them?

It would be too easy to out. Lets just say grades are great but not exactly top top of the class. Softs? Never saw the persons resume so not sure.

As to the person that says 5+ CB not that common, it seems the majority have at least 4.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:56 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.


Can you share what their approximate GPA and softs are without outing them?

It would be too easy to out. Lets just say grades are great. Softs? Never saw the persons resume so not sure.



OK, one data point. Yes the person who is one of the top 5 people in our class will be swimming in callbacks. Duh. The question is how steep of a dropoff in the number of CBs you get as you go down the class roster.

edit: and no. having in excess of 2 CBs does not seem to be there general rule. If i may ask, how many people do you know with 4+ (keeping in mind we have a class of 200).

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.


Can you share what their approximate GPA and softs are without outing them?

It would be too easy to out. Lets just say grades are great. Softs? Never saw the persons resume so not sure.



OK, one data point. Yes the person who is one of the top 5 people in our class will be swimming in callbacks. Duh. The question is how steep of a dropoff in the number of CBs you get as you go down the class roster.

edit: and no. having in excess of 2 CBs does not seem to be there general rule. If i may ask, how many people do you know with 4+ (keeping in mind we have a class of 200).


Also keeping in mind that people may be talking out of their ass when they say they have X number of callbacks.

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Re: Cornell AJF Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Lol I know someone with 14 CB's so far, not on LR, not a URM.


Can you share what their approximate GPA and softs are without outing them?

It would be too easy to out. Lets just say grades are great. Softs? Never saw the persons resume so not sure.



OK, one data point. Yes the person who is one of the top 5 people in our class will be swimming in callbacks. Duh. The question is how steep of a dropoff in the number of CBs you get as you go down the class roster.

edit: and no. having in excess of 2 CBs does not seem to be there general rule. If i may ask, how many people do you know with 4+ (keeping in mind we have a class of 200).

Well I've only asked around 6 people but out of them 5 all have 4+ CBs.




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