Aqualibrium wrote:Funny that you guys discredit/disregard sadsituation. Honestly, what he said is pretty much spot on. From what I've seen as a law student, as someone who is working at a large firm, and as someone with some common sense, the class of 2013 and beyond is going to be in a pretty sad state...large firm practice as we know it is changing big time and a lot of firms are trying to put on a happy face for the outside world while those gears of change continue to grind internally.
I get that this thread probably isn't the place for someone to speak in such a unfeeling, I told you so tone of voice, but that doesn't make the meat of the statement any less true. I'll put it this way, I actually have a job and every day I still worry/approach it as an opportunity to learn how to do things right and what not to do when I'm out on my own because im not at all counting on being insulated from the outside world by my cushy 16th floor office. I fully expect to see more no offers, more kids with top grades willing to work for peanuts, and more people from good schools with good grades applying for temporary legal work.
P.S. Even when you make it in the door as an associate, the firm can generally terminate you at will, and even making partner might not be enough to insulate you from the "fat trimming."
I'll tell you why: because sadsituation has lumped every single person in here together, acting as if we all ignored the warnings and went in blindly, and is essentially rooting against us as if we're a bunch of bummed out 3Ls at Golden Gate U who thumbed our noses at the JDUers. That could not be further from the truth. Most of the people ITT carefully weighed their options, assessed the risks, and made choices that were pretty good given the facts and circumstances. At the T14 right now, the recovery has gotten to a point where most people are landing SA jobs. Other folks in here took big scholarships to solid regional schools, guarding against hte possibility that they missed biglaw. The terrible economy and the lessons of the last few classes have weighed on our minds throughout the entire process, from our application cycle, to 1L year grades, to OCI, to our SA experiences. Who in here "ignored the scambloggers and the JDU crowd?" I think that for the most part, the TLS c/o 2013 and 2014 is the most cautious, informed, and aware group of law students ever.
Right now, no-offers have been fairly rare, and he's acting like we're all drowning in them. I get that he thinks that a new wave of rescinded offers awaits us, but there is no evidence that is the case. I know my firm brought on all of their 2008 SAs on time in 2009, and there is absolutely zero evidence that they intend to screw my class this time. So yes, while it is certainly possible I (or others) could be handed a pink slip between now and this time next year, or even right after we start, I'm not going to lay awake at night terrified of it. For him to be rooting against all of us so he can feel justified is just sad. This thread is supposed to be about helping those who received a no-offer.