Dinsmore & Shohl Forum

[Anonymous User]

Someone has to assign the project. Paralegals and other (brain dead) employees do not just do assignments spontaneously. If the aforementioned partner would have billed more than .1 hr, then I could see the validity of your position. Managing the workload of your subordinates is part of the job description of partners. If partners didn't get to bill for assigning said projects, firms would make no money.

But then again, I am most likely arguing with someone who has no experience managing a law practice or practicing law in general.

If you can do it better than a firm, by all means, start your own practice.

Anyone who calls paralegals "brain dead employees" clearly has no experience doing jack in the legal world (and yes, with your wording you essentially called them brain dead). Good luck being successful by treating your paralegals like shit.

[Anonymous User]

^ Flame

[Anonymous User]

How long after screener has Dinsmore getting back to people? Also have they been dinging or just quiet for those they don't call?

[Anonymous User]

I guess I have a random (also anecdotal) contribution to make. Someone I know hired D&S for a simple copyright matter and they sent him a bill in the middle of the application process. One of the lines in the bill charged my acquaintance $39.50 for the .1 hour that it took a partner to check the status of the copyright.

D&S charged partner rates for checking the status of a copyright application.

Here's a list of people that D&S might have been able to get to check on the process:
1. An associate
2. A paralegal
3. An administrative assistant
4. Anyone else who's not a partner

I'm not some crazy anti-D&S troll (braces self), but charging a partner's rate for an almost valueless service speaks to the professionalism of at least one partner at that firm. While this might have been an isolated incident, it might speak to how different members of the firm handle client matters and how that handling might shadily rip clients off pretty blatantly.

I have no interest/ stake in Dinsmore and don't know a lot about the firm. However, I would say that charging .1 for that service shows that they are actually on top of their billing. It's usually the firm that charges 10K for 13 hours of "legal research" that you have to watch out for. I've worked for purveyors of legal services who appreciate a thorough breakdown. Sure, someone may complain that that's not efficient, but I'm sure the partner would explain or reduce the bill if they complained. Perhaps he just quickly did it himself because he needed the information immediately to finish his project, who knows. In my opinion, the administrative assistants and the secretaries who handle billing entries and cutting checks complain about this and that little charge, but typically the general counsel or whomever is making the real decisions appreciate a thorough breakdown of costs. In the real world, partners frequently charge for things that that someone else could be doing. What's $39.50 in comparison to the total bill. Sounds like the "someone you know" is a cheap ass.

[Anonymous User]

Silence since the 16th.

[Anonymous User]

Bump. Any 3L movement?

[Anonymous User]

Nothing on the 2L front

[Anonymous User]

Nothing on the 2L front

CB to Columbus office, interviewed last week.

[Anonymous User]

Bump

[Anonymous User]

cincinatti CB. notified last week by phone. screening interview the week of the 20th. 2L.

[Anonymous User]

bump

[Anonymous User]

CB this week

[Anonymous User]

CB this week

Stats? 2L or 3L?

[Anonymous User]

2L
T1
Top 10-15%
Decent Ties

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L movement? Have they offered their summers yet?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone interview with them last year have any experience on their timetable?

Last year for 2L recruiting, offers came out in late Oct (for T14 kids at least).

Fucccck, are you serious? Late October? Wow.

I have my CB this week. t14, strong ties, median. really want this, dinsmore is a really great firm to work at.

[Anonymous User]

Bump for 3L movement?

[Anonymous User]

Interviewed 3.5 weeks ago for 2L spot. Silence.

[Anonymous User]

Interviewed 3.5 weeks ago for 2L spot. Silence.

Same here, but 4 weeks for me. I'd like to think this means I wasn't so terrible to be rejected outright, but they're probably just being lazy/forgot to send me a letter.

[Anonymous User]

I'll just contact some alumni later this week and see what the deal is.

[Anonymous User]

bump

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L movement? Have they offered their summers yet?

Yes. At least the Columbus and Cincinnati offices have.

[ndirish2010]

3L, just got a ding from a screener I did in August. Solid.

[Anonymous User]

Stats? Mail or Email ding?

[Anonymous User]

Any 3L movement? Have they offered their summers yet?

Yes. At least the Columbus and Cincinnati offices have.

You mean those offices have offered 3L summers, not 2L?