McQueen wrote:To an earlier poster suggesting no debt at schools like Emory, Fordham, Miami, etc., Ask those no-debt students to raise their hand. . . then enjoy gawking at a blank screen. Those schools are T14 expen$ive.
Sup [*hand raised*]? I attend one of the schools BW listed, top 10% and LR; and I am debt-free. I just wrapped up a SA position at what is widely considered one of the top two firms in my market. Informally, I was told to expect an offer within the next two weeks. If the offer comes through I think I'll be in really good shape.
As far as the analogy, the one I noted was from a recruiter. I took it to mean that firms think more highly of T14 median against 4.0/175 classmates versus top 10 against 3.4/160 classmates. Simple enough?
First and foremost, you have to understand that recruiters are there to make you feel good. The recruiter made an open-ended statement and you've drawn a conclusion from that statement that reinforces your bias. Perhaps you are drawing the right conclusion, but I think you are overconfident about this point. Your understanding is based on a combination of what was suggested to you and what you want to believe. BW's understanding is based on his experience.
Generally speaking, I tend to agree with BW. The SA's at my firm were a mix of every T14 & UT/Vandy + ~8-10 regional schools. My firm had no shortage of applicants and easily could have filled its entire class with T14/UT/Vandy students if it so desired.
homestyle28 wrote:To inject a few facts: from NU's 2011 OCI here's some GPA's that got callbacks in secondary markets (Median at NU is 3.3ish). The lesson (I think) is that it varies by firm, but it looks to me that a below median bottom t-14er can get CBs in secondary markets. They will, of course, not dominate the secondary market, nor will they displace all the top 10% are regional schools, but they also won't get owned either.
There's a difference between a CB and an Offer. Doing a quick search of the attorney profiles at those firms and looking for NU SOL JDs who are associates:
Dinsmore - 0 NU SOL Associates
Dorsey - 2 NU SOL Associates; c/o 2008 graduated with latin honors, c/o 2002 does not list honors.
Edwards Wildman - 0 NU SOL Associates in Boston office, 1 firm-wide--in Chicago
Faegre - 1 NU SOL Associate firm-wide located in Indiana, c/o 2004. No academic honors from NU SOL listed other than "Dean's List." This firm is kind of surprising b/c they have 10+ partners/counsel from NU SOL.
Reinhart Boerner - 2 Associates from NU SOL. Unfortunately, their bios don't list graduation years, neither graduated with latin honors.
Obviously, this doesn't prove anything other than NU SOL grads are not ending up at these firms. Perhaps NU students don't want to work at these firms and they are declining offers? This thread from last year about the NU/UVA/GULC/Duke Texas Interview Program seems to support BW's theory.