The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:46 pm

The no journal hurting seems to be very different from responses in viewtopic.php?f=23&t=190018

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:47 pm

No point in agonizing over bids now. Your bids are in and schedules will be out soon enough.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:48 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Would either ropes or Sidley be reasonable with a 3.5 and secondary journal?


Definitely reasonable. Gives you a chance.


not the anon from above but fairly similar stats. any ideas on how likely someone w those stats is to get a lot of callbacks/offer?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Would either ropes or Sidley be reasonable with a 3.5 and secondary journal?


Definitely reasonable. Gives you a chance.


not the anon from above but fairly similar stats. any ideas on how likely someone w those stats is to get a lot of callbacks/offer?


Gives you an in with the firms. Once you get past a certain stage it's all about fit via your interview skills.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The no journal hurting seems to be very different from responses in viewtopic.php?f=23&t=190018


I think it's school dependent. At Fordham, from what I hear and read, journal is important.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:02 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:The no journal hurting seems to be very different from responses in viewtopic.php?f=23&t=190018


I think it's school dependent. At Fordham, from what I hear and read, journal is important.


agreed. a lot of employers listed it as preferred on symplicity but thats not to say you can't overcome it

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:06 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:The no journal hurting seems to be very different from responses in viewtopic.php?f=23&t=190018


I think it's school dependent. At Fordham, from what I hear and read, journal is important.


agreed. a lot of employers listed it as preferred on symplicity but thats not to say you can't overcome it


Agreed but the requirements on Symplicity aren't always accurate. I believe that the firms put the same requirements for many schools' Symplicity listings even if journal is not a big deal at the school.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:07 pm

Yeah pretty much every firm has journal preferred.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:41 pm

I'm the 25% anon poster. I haven't mass-mailed yet because I only want to be in NYC and am not sure to approach it. I also don't really have a second market because I'm from a super rural area with nothing but shitlaw. Thoughts?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:26 am

mass mail NYC firms?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:56 am

What NYC firms have summer programs but don't interview at fordham and would take a fordham student?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:32 pm

To the Anon who posted on the first page about a classmate almost getting shut out of OCI:

I'm pretty sure I know who that is. You might want to delete, as I'm sure he or she wouldn't want to read that.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:51 pm

3.5, secondary, some legal work experience. Ropes, Sidley or Proskauer.... are any of those wasted bids?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:3.5, secondary, some legal work experience. Ropes, Sidley or Proskauer.... are any of those wasted bids?


Are you the same person or is everybody at a 3.5 with a secondary?

We already mentioned Ropes is unlikely, Sidley slightly higher chance, and Proskauer basically wants LR top 10% or they'll laugh at you.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:49 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:3.5, secondary, some legal work experience. Ropes, Sidley or Proskauer.... are any of those wasted bids?


Are you the same person or is everybody at a 3.5 with a secondary?

We already mentioned Ropes is unlikely, Sidley slightly higher chance, and Proskauer basically wants LR top 10% or they'll laugh at you.


I don't see where Proskauer gets off with it's demands for Fordham. It's pull from Fordham, despite giving out a good number of offers, is horrible. If I'm not mistaken, no one from Fordham has accepted an offer at Proskauer in quite some time.

I turned one down last year. During OCI, this was not said to me, but another interviewee was told by the interviewing partner to not get his hopes up -- NYU and Columbia kids would likely get picked over him. That despite offering between 5-10 Fordham kids offers and none accepting.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:53 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:3.5, secondary, some legal work experience. Ropes, Sidley or Proskauer.... are any of those wasted bids?


Are you the same person or is everybody at a 3.5 with a secondary?

We already mentioned Ropes is unlikely, Sidley slightly higher chance, and Proskauer basically wants LR top 10% or they'll laugh at you.


I don't see where Proskauer gets off with it's demands for Fordham. It's pull from Fordham, despite giving out a good number of offers, is horrible. If I'm not mistaken, no one from Fordham has accepted an offer at Proskauer in quite some time.

I turned one down last year. During OCI, this was not said to me, but another interviewee was told by the interviewing partner to not get his hopes up -- NYU and Columbia kids would likely get picked over him. That despite offering between 5-10 Fordham kids offers and none accepting.


IIRC correctly the vault and chamber stuff on them speaks a bit about how much it sucks to work there anyway. I kinda wish Fordham would repeat its Reed Smith course of action and just ban the douchebags. It's another case of ugly girl who thinks she's pretty because now she's getting anyone she wants because of the drought.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:39 am

O'melveny with pretty much the same stats.... any chance or was it a waste?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:41 am

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Anonymous User wrote:3.5, secondary, some legal work experience. Ropes, Sidley or Proskauer.... are any of those wasted bids?


Are you the same person or is everybody at a 3.5 with a secondary?

We already mentioned Ropes is unlikely, Sidley slightly higher chance, and Proskauer basically wants LR top 10% or they'll laugh at you.


I don't see where Proskauer gets off with it's demands for Fordham. It's pull from Fordham, despite giving out a good number of offers, is horrible. If I'm not mistaken, no one from Fordham has accepted an offer at Proskauer in quite some time.

I turned one down last year. During OCI, this was not said to me, but another interviewee was told by the interviewing partner to not get his hopes up -- NYU and Columbia kids would likely get picked over him. That despite offering between 5-10 Fordham kids offers and none accepting.


IIRC correctly the vault and chamber stuff on them speaks a bit about how much it sucks to work there anyway. I kinda wish Fordham would repeat its Reed Smith course of action and just ban the douchebags. It's another case of ugly girl who thinks she's pretty because now she's getting anyone she wants because of the drought.


Agreed. Liked the partners I interviewed with there a lot, but the associates I interviewed with/met at lunch and drinks after interviews were gigantic douches. Of all the attorneys I met during OCI, not once did people brag about their income or tout themselves as highly as the associates I met at Proskauer. Really off-putting. Not sure if those are the type of people they were going for, or they just invite everyone and only those guys showed up, but if it's the latter, I was pretty shocked their recruiting department doesn't hand pick the people they want to represent the firm to potential Summer Associates.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby JenDarby » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What NYC firms have summer programs but don't interview at fordham and would take a fordham student?

I've mainly mass mailed non NYC firms.

I was under the impression we shouldn't mass mail firms that will be at OCI, and that knocks out a large number of NYC firms.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:17 pm

JenDarby wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What NYC firms have summer programs but don't interview at fordham and would take a fordham student?

I've mainly mass mailed non NYC firms.

I was under the impression we shouldn't mass mail firms that will be at OCI, and that knocks out a large number of NYC firms.


Talk to the CDC asap and see if that impression is correct. If you're a competitive candidate then perhaps waiting for your interview schedule is fine, but if you want to maximize your chances, there is no harm in mass mailing any and all firms now. Every day you wait is a day wasted in the job hunt.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:50 pm

bumping for news (hopefully) in the next couple days...

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:46 am

3.5 secondary.... 10 interviews. WTF. I feel like I really fucked up.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:47 am

top 15, lr, 25 screeners

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.5 secondary.... 10 interviews. WTF. I feel like I really fucked up.


This sounds about right to me based on last year. LR people with around 3.3-3.4 (in the top 25-33% range) usually netted around 10 screeners

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Re: The OFFICIAL Fordham 2014 OCI Season

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:59 am

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Anonymous User wrote:3.5 secondary.... 10 interviews. WTF. I feel like I really fucked up.


This sounds about right to me based on last year. LR people with around 3.3-3.4 (in the top 25-33% range) usually netted around 10 screeners


I'm a 3.4 secondary with same. It seems a bit low to me (yours). Sorry, dood.




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