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Is the term "rising" offensive?
As in "rising second-year student"?
Big Law Partner alumnus (in response to mass mail):
"Several people found the term 'rising' either off putting or confusing...."
Big Law Partner alumnus (in response to mass mail):
"Several people found the term 'rising' either off putting or confusing...."
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
Very offensive.
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
Pretty sure it is more confusing to just say "second-year student."
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
What? I've been using "rising" in my cover letters and I don't think it's been a problem. Why would it be offensive (unless you have a dirty mind)?
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
Yeah, because then they don't know if you are someone who just finished 2L and is desperately job hunting because they screwed up as a 2L or someone who is just starting 2L and wants to get a jump on the process.shock259 wrote:Pretty sure it is more confusing to just say "second-year student."
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
I've heard this before as well. Boomers.
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
It can definitely be offensive to people who don't know the term. I thought it sounded pretentious when I first heard it, but now that I know what it means, I'm totally fine with the word. So if you use it it's kind of a gamble. I guess I'm actually just curious as to how many employers are familiar with the term "rising" 1L/2L/3L.
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ITT: being confusing is offensive
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
Yeah, unless you are someone who is inundated by the word's usage, it sounds a little pretentious. Thus, no reason to use it. Just say, "I just finished my 1L year at XXX"Total Litigator wrote:It can definitely be offensive to people who don't know the term. I thought it sounded pretentious when I first heard it, but now that I know what it means, I'm totally fine with the word. So if you use it it's kind of a gamble. I guess I'm actually just curious as to how many employers are familiar with the term "rising" 1L/2L/3L.
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That's a good question. Every lawyer 25 and older went to law school in Angola, and they don't use the term "rising 1L, 2L, or 3L" in sub-Saharan Africa.Total Litigator wrote:It can definitely be offensive to people who don't know the term. I thought it sounded pretentious when I first heard it, but now that I know what it means, I'm totally fine with the word. So if you use it it's kind of a gamble. I guess I'm actually just curious as to how many employers are familiar with the term "rising" 1L/2L/3L.
ETA: Posts the guy who used the term "rising 2L" is all of his cover letters, and is being ravenously sarcastic to hide the anxiety you just produced.
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In my experience, SHIT BOOMERS don't understand what it means.
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
This thread is insane. Use the term. Or not. Nobody cares.
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I'm confused, why would this be offensive? I have always heard this term... literally, "Summer Reading List for Rising Second-Graders" etc. How else would someone describe what year they are going to be in school during the preceding summer?
/now concerned about what normal words I use that people mysteriously find offensive
/now concerned about what normal words I use that people mysteriously find offensive
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Monty The Dog wrote:This thread(TLS) is insane.Use the term. Or not.Nobody cares.
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Lol! I'm actually just curious as to how recent and widely used the term is. I mean, were law students rocking the term rising in the 1960's? Or maybe it started being used in the 90's, but by now everyone in the legal field has been so inundated with the term that they are used to and fine with the term?lisjjen wrote:That's a good question. Every lawyer 25 and older went to law school in Angola, and they don't use the term "rising 1L, 2L, or 3L" in sub-Saharan Africa.Total Litigator wrote:It can definitely be offensive to people who don't know the term. I thought it sounded pretentious when I first heard it, but now that I know what it means, I'm totally fine with the word. So if you use it it's kind of a gamble. I guess I'm actually just curious as to how many employers are familiar with the term "rising" 1L/2L/3L.
ETA: Posts the guy who used the term "rising 2L" is all of his cover letters, and is being ravenously sarcastic to hide the anxiety you just produced.
My hunch is that the vast majority employers are familiar with the term. However, the only time I ever really mentioned the word in a conversation with someone who hires law students was with a ~40 year old career law clerk in an insular market and he/she looked at me at asked, "Rising?" So that is just anecdotal, probably the exception to the rule, but it did make me wonder.
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
I can't tell if this thread is worse than the coffee one. Thoughts?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=189917
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mods could probably delete every thread started by Anonymous User and hit no more than 3 posts of valueshock259 wrote:I can't tell if this thread is worse than the coffee one. Thoughts?
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
How bout, a "partner wants to have coffee with me... I emailed him earlier and used the term 'rising 2L.' Did I just f*** myself?" thread.shock259 wrote:I can't tell if this thread is worse than the coffee one. Thoughts?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=189917
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
This is a completely new and confusing issue to me. Who the hell are these people?
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"Rising" is not the preferred nomeclature. "Soon to be _L" or "_L", please.
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Why did you ask this anonymously? Because you realized it was a retarded question and you were embarrassed? Not the correct anon use bro.
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Re: Is the term "rising" offensive?
I quoted an actual Big Law partner in the OP. Given it was an issue that was actually raised, I don't see how it's a retarded question.ilovesf wrote:Why did you ask this anonymously? Because you realized it was a retarded question and you were embarrassed? Not the correct anon use bro.
Quoting letters from Big Law partners sounds like a correct use of the anon feature to me.
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TITCRilovesf wrote:Why did you ask this anonymously? Because you realized it was a retarded question and you were embarrassed? Not the correct anon use bro.
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I cannot fathom a single reason the term "rising" could possibly be problematic. I have used the term in all of my cover letters and have encountered no problems, and our Career Services Office uses it frequently. It seems more professional and concise than "soon-to-be" or any other alternative I can think of.
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"Incoming second year law student" is the only legit alternative I can think of.Gecko of Doom wrote:I cannot fathom a single reason the term "rising" could possibly be problematic. I have used the term in all of my cover letters and have encountered no problems, and our Career Services Office uses it frequently. It seems more professional and concise than "soon-to-be" or any other alternative I can think of.
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