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UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:49 pm

I have a 3.5 at UCLA/USC with strong ties to Socal. No law review or journal.

Don't care as much about the prestige of the firm...

Any help would be appreciated (if there are any glaring mistakes or any firms I should have included, etc.) Thanks in advance...

1) Rutan & Tucker
2) Stradling, Yocca, Carlson & Rauth
3) White & Case
4) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius
5) Stroock & Stroock & Lavan
6) Allen Matkins Leck Gamble Mallory & Natsis
7) Manatt, Phelps & Phillips
8 - Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
9) Crowell & Moring
10) Reed Smith
11) Troutman Sanders
12) Latham & Watkins
13) Greenberg Traurig
14) Best, Best & Krieger
15) Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
16) Sedgwick
17) Goodwin Proctor
18) Mayer Brown
19) Mckenna Long & Aldridge
20) DLA Piper
21) Jones Day
22) Arnold & Porter
23) Winston & Strawn
24) Sullivan & Cromwell
25) Bingham
26) O’Melveney & Meyers
27) K&L Gates
28) Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman
29) Hogan Lovells
30) Bryan Cave
31) Proskauer Rose
32) Keesal, Young & Logan
33) Shearman Mullin, Richter & Hampton

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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby anon168 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have a 3.5 at UCLA/USC with strong ties to Socal. No law review or journal.

Don't care as much about the prestige of the firm...

Any help would be appreciated (if there are any glaring mistakes or any firms I should have included, etc.) Thanks in advance...

1) Rutan & Tucker
2) Stradling, Yocca, Carlson & Rauth
3) White & Case
4) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius
5) Stroock & Stroock & Lavan
6) Allen Matkins Leck Gamble Mallory & Natsis
7) Manatt, Phelps & Phillips
8 - Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
9) Crowell & Moring
10) Reed Smith
11) Troutman Sanders
12) Latham & Watkins
13) Greenberg Traurig
14) Best, Best & Krieger
15) Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton
16) Sedgwick
17) Goodwin Proctor
18) Mayer Brown
19) Mckenna Long & Aldridge
20) DLA Piper
21) Jones Day
22) Arnold & Porter
23) Winston & Strawn
24) Sullivan & Cromwell
25) Bingham
26) O’Melveney & Meyers
27) K&L Gates
28) Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman
29) Hogan Lovells
30) Bryan Cave
31) Proskauer Rose
32) Keesal, Young & Logan
33) Shearman Mullin, Richter & Hampton


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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:52 pm

I'm in a similar situation. If at all possible, I'd appreciate it if the second poster could answer the question in this thread, rather than by PM. This would also help people down the road. There is far too little information for UCLA/USC and the LA market in general on this site.

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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby anon168 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:04 am

Anonymous User wrote:I have a 3.5 at UCLA/USC with strong ties to Socal. No law review or journal.

Don't care as much about the prestige of the firm...

Any help would be appreciated (if there are any glaring mistakes or any firms I should have included, etc.) Thanks in advance...

1) Rutan & Tucker 3 (esp if you have OC ties)
2) Stradling, Yocca, Carlson & Rauth 4
3) White & Case 2
4) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius 2
5) Stroock & Stroock & Lavan 4
6) Allen Matkins Leck Gamble Mallory & Natsis 4
7) Manatt, Phelps & Phillips 3
8 - Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy 2
9) Crowell & Moring 2
10) Reed Smith 2
11) Troutman Sanders (no idea)
12) Latham & Watkins 1
13) Greenberg Traurig 3
14) Best, Best & Krieger 4
15) Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton 4
16) Sedgwick (no idea)
17) Goodwin Proctor (no idea)
18) Mayer Brown 3
19) Mckenna Long & Aldridge 3
20) DLA Piper 3
21) Jones Day 2
22) Arnold & Porter 2
23) Winston & Strawn 3
24) Sullivan & Cromwell 2
25) Bingham 3
26) O’Melveney & Meyers 1
27) K&L Gates 3
28) Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman 3
29) Hogan Lovells 3
30) Bryan Cave 3
31) Proskauer Rose 3
32) Keesal, Young & Logan (no idea)
33) Shearman Mullin, Richter & Hampton 3


Ok. I am going to do this on a scale of 1 to 5, with a 1 being no chance and a 5 being a really good chance.

Of course, these are just best estimates on my part.

Good luck to both of you

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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:36 am

Can I just ask where a 3.5 at UCLA/USC would rank someone? I'm curious because im looking at LA/Socal firms too from a T30 and would like to gauge (e.g. if that's top 20% at UCLA and I'm top 10%, my chancs are presumably similar or more likely worse).

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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby anon5225 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:Can I just ask where a 3.5 at UCLA/USC would rank someone? I'm curious because im looking at LA/Socal firms too from a T30 and would like to gauge (e.g. if that's top 20% at UCLA and I'm top 10%, my chancs are presumably similar or more likely worse).



~top 25%. not entirely sure though

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Re: UCLA/USC Socal Bid List Help

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:30 pm

anon5225 wrote:~top 25%. not entirely sure though


I believe this is correct. No one knows for sure obviously. But if median is actually 3.2 and Order of the Coif is somewhere around 3.7, 3.5 should be close to top 25% based on the formula that's been posted elsewhere on this site.

Does anyone know anything about Jeffer Mangels (firm culture, selectivity, etc.)?




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