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clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:26 pm

clerking in one of nd/cd cal. mods can check my history if they want. non-flame.

this is stupid. i wish i'd externed and got what i need out of it. i'd rather be making a ton more money litigating this crap.
taking questions.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby fatduck » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:28 pm

does the judge ever let you bang the gavel?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:29 pm

fatduck wrote:does the judge ever let you bang the gavel?

no but he/she does let me gavel the bang
shit this job would be 10x fun if there was a gavel involved

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:33 pm

i'll make a list
1. money sucks
2. not much to judging. "magic" ain't happening in chambers. order writing is just a less persuasive form of motion writing. less fun.
3. no interaction with anyone except judge and co-clerk
4. judge ain't mentoring shit (maybe this is 50% of it)
5. money sucks

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby ilovesf » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:40 pm

What were your stats and school range?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby JusticeJackson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:48 pm

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby dixon02 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:49 pm

what're your hours like

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby fatduck » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:50 pm

JusticeJackson wrote:Taking my clerkship was the best decision of my life. The job was fulfilling, in that I had a real impact on the law. It was also a nice break from the long hours I had before and after my clerkship. Additionally, it opened up doors and provided job security I didn’t have before. When I started my clerkship, I was lucky as hell to have a job offer from one firm. As my clerkship wrapped up, I had at least 6 firms call me and tell me that if I apply, the job is mine. I know if the firm I’m at lays me off tomorrow, I could call up a number of firms that will hire me solely because of the clerkship.

D. Ct. clerkship? COA? something else?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby JusticeJackson » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:51 pm

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby target » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:56 pm

do you think COA vs. Dist. Ct. could have made the difference of experience?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby ilovesf » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:58 pm

target wrote:do you think COA vs. Dist. Ct. could have made the difference of experience?

Probs. District Court has to deal with tons of shit motions and pro ses who write terribly.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby wiseowl » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:03 am

goodness. GTL Rev's corpse isn't even cold yet and this hits the board?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby ilovesf » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:05 am

wiseowl wrote:goodness. GTL Rev's corpse isn't even cold yet and this hits the board?

Did something happen to him?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby wiseowl » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:18 am

ilovesf wrote:
wiseowl wrote:goodness. GTL Rev's corpse isn't even cold yet and this hits the board?

Did something happen to him?


Quit board and deleted all posts. Says he was "burned out." If you discuss it, you get a bullet between the eyes. I am in grave danger.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:29 am

edit- sry accidental anon
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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby gotmilk? » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:30 am

Do you think a lot of your bad experience is due to your judge not being the best mentor? Or are there a lot of other clerks in your courthouse who are having bad experiences?

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby target » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:38 am

ilovesf wrote:
target wrote:do you think COA vs. Dist. Ct. could have made the difference of experience?

Probs. District Court has to deal with tons of shit motions and pro ses who write terribly.


true. although COA still has to take a lot of appeals from pro ses since sometimes dist. ct. don't care to be that thorough. 8)

ETA: didn't know about GTLRev. damn, hope he will be ok.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby hiima3L » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:18 am

Can I take your job? I live a few blocks away.

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A lowly Hastings grad with no shot at N.D. Cal.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:22 am

ilovesf wrote:What were your stats and school range?

good enough for nd/cd cal

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:23 am

JusticeJackson wrote:Taking my clerkship was the best decision of my life. The job was fulfilling, in that I had a real impact on the law. It was also a nice break from the long hours I had before and after my clerkship. Additionally, it opened up doors and provided job security I didn’t have before. When I started my clerkship, I was lucky as hell to have a job offer from one firm. As my clerkship wrapped up, I had at least 6 firms call me and tell me that if I apply, the job is mine. I know if the firm I’m at lays me off tomorrow, I could call up a number of firms that will hire me solely because of the clerkship.

"you" had no impact on the law. anyone would have done your job. and everyone would have come to the same decisions you wrote orders for (if you wrote orders). maybe you're using a very weird definition of "impact," i.e., people cite cases I wrote. If that's "impact," then ok, i guess. Nobody knows you made any impact, though. And it's not much of an achievement to make an impact when working for a judge. Better to make an impact as a litigant.

maybe your job situation is different from mine. i dont need this clerkship to get a job. so if thats the case, sure, clerkship is worth it.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:27 am

dixon02 wrote:what're your hours like

45 hour weeks on average. Most are either 40-hour or 50-hour weeks. Occasionally, I'll hit 55-60 for a particularly important motion which requires special attention.

It's nice for the first few weeks after big law. Then you get your fed paycheck. And then you miss big law.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:27 am

I agree.. fuck that shit. Not even interested.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:28 am

target wrote:do you think COA vs. Dist. Ct. could have made the difference of experience?

god yes. i would die of boredom at COA. At least here, there's more action.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:29 am

gotmilk? wrote:Do you think a lot of your bad experience is due to your judge not being the best mentor? Or are there a lot of other clerks in your courthouse who are having bad experiences?

Probably got a lot to do with it. But my guess is that mentoring judges make their clerks work hard and have really high expectations. I don't talk shit about my experience with co-clerks. I don't want to get a reputation for not liking my job at the workplace.

My guess is most of them are jaded after the first two months or so. Some are still giggly about getting a clerkship, but they're the strivers.

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Re: clerking is bullshit

Postby JusticeJackson » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:31 am

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