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Firm or Clerkship?

Go for the small firm
9
60%
Go for the Circuit Court (state trial level) clerkship
6
40%
 
Total votes: 15

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Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:40 pm

Currently I am interning at a small firm that does international trade and investment work for science and technology companies. I will most likely be working here 2 days a week during my 3L year. I feel that in this situation I will have a pretty good chance at transitioning into a position after graduation, if I pursue it.

I also interned at the local Circuit Court (state trial level) last summer and developed a good relationship with the Judge there. I think I would have a pretty good shot getting a clerkship here after graduation as well.

Obviously nothing is guaranteed, and I be applying to other places, but my question is: would it be advantageous to clerk for the Circuit Court Judge for a year before starting at a firm? Or am I better of just trying to start at the small firm and skip the clerkship?

A little about me: I have a scientific background (5 yrs work expirence in a lab) and I originally was interested in patent law/IP but I would be happy with any position that is science and technology related (which my current internship is). I am also interested in litigation (which my current internship does not do).
Last edited by SDviaVA on Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:45 pm

Are you referring to a Federal Court of Appeals judge or a state trial court judge? Assuming the latter, just start at the firm. If you are unsure whether they are going to give you a permanent offer (which is something that you need to explicitly ask about), then try for the state trial court clerkship.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:54 pm

Sorry, it would be a state trial court judge (I realize these titles vary from state to state).

Thanks for the advice, I realize I need to ask, but I was hoping to decide what I actually want to do before I ask. That way I dont ask and then have them offer me a postion only to decide later I would prefer clerking.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:32 am

1 v 1 tie? This has not been very helpful!

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby dood » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:50 am

u should edit ur 1st post and survey. only reason i voted clerkship is bc i assume u meant US CoA before reading u meant state court.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby dood » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:53 am

SDviaVA wrote:1 v 1 tie? This has not been very helpful!


bc u havent told us what u want to do/what ur goals are. also, u havent secured either offer....

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:54 am

dood wrote:u should edit ur 1st post and survey. only reason i voted clerkship is bc i assume u meant US CoA before reading u meant state court.


Ok thanks. I fixed that.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:55 am

dood wrote:
SDviaVA wrote:1 v 1 tie? This has not been very helpful!


bc u havent told us what u want to do/what ur goals are. also, u havent secured either offer....


^this. You need to pursue both.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:02 am

dood wrote:
SDviaVA wrote:1 v 1 tie? This has not been very helpful!


bc u havent told us what u want to do/what ur goals are. also, u havent secured either offer....


To clarify, my ultimate goal is to be a patent litigator, but I would be happy with any position that involves science/technology and pays well.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:05 am

Anonymous User wrote:
dood wrote:
SDviaVA wrote:1 v 1 tie? This has not been very helpful!


bc u havent told us what u want to do/what ur goals are. also, u havent secured either offer....


^this. You need to pursue both.


Ok, I will be pursing both. I guess I should have phrased the question: If I were to get offers from both, which position would be the most beneficial for my career?

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:17 am

Side note: here are my current thoughts on the matter – correct me if I am wrong…

Clerkship
Pros: legal experience I will probably never have another chance to get once I start working.
Cons: Lousy pay (40K-50K), not really directly related to patent or science and technology law.

Firm
Pros: Related the field I want to pursue, pay is better than a clerkship, can start getting relevant experience right away.
Cons: Some employers like to see clerkships on resume, will be missing out on the clerkship experience.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:36 am

Looks like TLS is having as hard of a time deciding as I am....

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby SDviaVA » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:54 am

Again with the tie.

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Re: Firm or Clerkship?

Postby fatduck » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:02 am

SDviaVA wrote:Looks like TLS is having as hard of a time deciding as I am....

probably because it doesn't really matter and it mostly comes down to personal preference.




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