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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:01 pm

Anyone know anything about the culture of HB (Dallas or Fort Worth)?

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:11 pm

f0bolous wrote:I think the decision is a bit more nuanced than that and totally depends on your desired exit options. In-state or making partner? probably better to stick with a TX firm. If your goal is to maximize pay in a shorter amount of time or for out-of-state lateral opps, then the national satellite is prob the better bet.


I would tend to agree- but K&L doesn't pay any more than any Texas firm (and likely less). Its a Pennsylvania firm, after all. They were one of the firms that cut first year pay to 145k a couple years ago while all BigTex firms stayed at 160.

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Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know anything about the culture of HB (Dallas or Fort Worth)?


Don't know much about FW, but I had a friend who clerked at HB Dallas in Summer 2011 and really loved it. I also know it has a great reputation around town.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:46 pm

All of the following are Houston offices. I called back with all of them and haven't heard back (yay no dings! boo no offers!):

Bracewell
Skadden
Susman
Weil

Got an offer from Locke Lord Houston last night.

I would commit some terrible acts for an offer from Susman. I don't mind saying.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:59 pm

If we're talking about K&L Gates, I don't think the decision is a close one at all. K&L's corporate group is dead. JW is not known for their corporate work. TK has a great culture and has strong oil & gas and real estate practices. TK's corporate group is a little weak but better than the other two I would think.[/quote]

What exactly is JW known for? Lit? Also, they seem to have a great culture and got a good vibe when I had my CB.
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Take this as you will from someone who didn't get even an OCI interview (although I was very surprised because I got some bigger interviews and even bigger offers), but I did go to a recruiting reception. This is as it was put to me from some associates--Think "big" law but for the state of Texas. They have a lot of good old boy clients, take on a lot of the national firms (that are based in Texas--FB and VE) left overs. However, they are quick to tell you they have Oprah and Dr. Phil as clients, had 2 Assocs. and 2 Partners tell me that.

I'll say this, I was disappointed to not have gotten an interview because they have a large variety of practices, big in the Texas oil and I thought they had great culture and they pay $160. If you want energy work, I don't think you will be disappointed and you'll do just as much litigation as anyone else in the state. Hell it could be worse you could be in say... Iowa!
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I would commit some terrible acts for an offer from Susman. I don't mind saying.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby granger » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:06 pm

mhmmmm

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I would commit some terrible acts for an offer from Susman. I don't mind saying.


You and me both. They said they'll make offers only after all CBs have been done. The waiting is gonna suck.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:15 pm

Offer from SettlePou

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:16 pm

Have any offers for Munsch Hardt Dallas gone out?

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have any offers for Munsch Hardt Dallas gone out?


Had a callback with them a 2 weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet.

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:22 pm

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Had a callback with them a 2 weeks ago and haven't heard
yet.


Had mine a little over a week ago and haven't heard anything either. Did they give you a timeframe? I really liked them a lot.

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:37 pm

I had my call back the week of on campus interviews and they told me 2-3 weeks. Are all the firms moving slow? Has anyone heard about from Gardere, Looper Reed, or Thompson Coe?

When are we supposed to give up hope on all these?

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:46 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:what is the deal with AK Dallas offers? Are they still handing out offers?


My guess is that they made a few offers and are waiting to hear back before making more offers. Only speculation, though, as there is only one poster who has an AK (Dallas) offer.


Any recent movement with AK (Dallas)?

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:47 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Friend just got a BB Houston offer. UT, interviewed last week.


Good luck to him. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy...



Explain? What are BB houston impressions?

Also what are FJ Houston Impressions? Interested in Transactional work


BB: miserable place to work - everyone leaves when they get the chance. Very very uptight/stuffy atmospher. Diversity associates especially don't like it.

FJ: better - but little focus on transactional work.


I am SO glad that I wasn't the only one who felt this way about BB Houston. Everyone I met with seemed miserable! I did 8 CBs in NYC, which has a reputation for "miserableness", and did not find any firm there with associates as miserable as BB.
Also, I found the BB partners incredibly hard to connect with on a personal level whereas at V&E/AK/B&G/Latham at least they could carry on a freakin conversation like a normal person. I mean, I did not even like the attorneys at LL H-town but at least they knew how to shoot the shiz and waste the remaining time when the resume questioning ended

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Anonymous User wrote:I am SO glad that I wasn't the only one who felt this way about BB Houston. Everyone I met with seemed miserable! I did 8 CBs in NYC, which has a reputation for "miserableness", and did not find any firm there with associates as miserable as BB.
Also, I found the BB partners incredibly hard to connect with on a personal level whereas at V&E/AK/B&G/Latham at least they could carry on a freakin conversation like a normal person. I mean, I did not even like the attorneys at LL H-town but at least they knew how to shoot the shiz and waste the remaining time when the resume questioning ended


I've honestly met very very few people who actually chose to go to BB when they've had other options at top Houston firms. If I was an associate there, I would feel bad even trying to recruit others to come to the firm.

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:02 pm

Has anyone who interviewed with bracewell or FJ Houston last week heard back yet??

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:46 pm

Any offers from King & Spalding, Patton Boggs, or Haynes & Boone (Dallas) for UT kids yet?

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Anonymous User wrote:Any offers from King & Spalding, Patton Boggs, or Haynes & Boone (Dallas) for UT kids yet?


I know of at least 2 non-Fast Track UT kids with HB Dallas offers...

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Anonymous User wrote:Any offers from King & Spalding, Patton Boggs, or Haynes & Boone (Dallas) for UT kids yet?


I know of at least 2 non-Fast Track UT kids with HB Dallas offers...



Know when they had their CBs/got their offers?

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:14 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any offers from King & Spalding, Patton Boggs, or Haynes & Boone (Dallas) for UT kids yet?


I know of at least 2 non-Fast Track UT kids with HB Dallas offers...



Know when they had their CBs/got their offers?


Not sure - I think CB's a couple weeks ago and offers last week

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:48 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I am SO glad that I wasn't the only one who felt this way about BB Houston. Everyone I met with seemed miserable! I did 8 CBs in NYC, which has a reputation for "miserableness", and did not find any firm there with associates as miserable as BB.
Also, I found the BB partners incredibly hard to connect with on a personal level whereas at V&E/AK/B&G/Latham at least they could carry on a freakin conversation like a normal person. I mean, I did not even like the attorneys at LL H-town but at least they knew how to shoot the shiz and waste the remaining time when the resume questioning ended


I've honestly met very very few people who actually chose to go to BB when they've had other options at top Houston firms. If I was an associate there, I would feel bad even trying to recruit others to come to the firm.


absolutely. It's weird because when I was approaching OCI that was one of my top 2 choices prior to visiting. After my callback though, there is no way in heck I could see myself working there. Sad because they were the only firm I got a quick offer (<2 days turnaround) from

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Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:53 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I am SO glad that I wasn't the only one who felt this way about BB Houston. Everyone I met with seemed miserable! I did 8 CBs in NYC, which has a reputation for "miserableness", and did not find any firm there with associates as miserable as BB.
Also, I found the BB partners incredibly hard to connect with on a personal level whereas at V&E/AK/B&G/Latham at least they could carry on a freakin conversation like a normal person. I mean, I did not even like the attorneys at LL H-town but at least they knew how to shoot the shiz and waste the remaining time when the resume questioning ended


I've honestly met very very few people who actually chose to go to BB when they've had other options at top Houston firms. If I was an associate there, I would feel bad even trying to recruit others to come to the firm.


absolutely. It's weird because when I was approaching OCI that was one of my top 2 choices prior to visiting. After my callback though, there is no way in heck I could see myself working there. Sad because they were the only firm I got a quick offer (<2 days turnaround) from


+1... but they're really good for bargaining with other firms.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:54 pm

JW Austin offer to UT student. CB 2 weeks ago.

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Re: Texas OCI (and non-UT students bidding on TX firms)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:01 pm

Anyone hear from V&E-Houston today? Interviewed late last week, was told recruiting meets on Wednesdays.




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