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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby ExcitedBlutterance » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Can we share information about what we know anecdotally (or through experience) about some of the large firms in Boston?
Ropes, Wilmer, Goodwin, Bingham, Choate, Foley Hoag, Mintz Levin, Goulston and Storrs, Nutter, Brown Rudnick, Nixon Peabody, etc.

and maybe some of the other larger firms with decent size offices, Latham, Weil, Skadden, Jones Day?

Are the firms with the largest class sizes (Ropes, Wilmer) more selective than some of the firms with smalll classes (Foley, Goulston)?


"Selectivity" is hard to say. Veril Dana is probably taking 1 SA in Boston this year, so it's probably harder to get a job there than Ropes. Class sizes really muddles up selectivity.

That said, Ropes seems to be all about grades. They also seem to have a pretty relaxed culture so, I'm sure that comes into play as well. Wilmer seems to take top 10% and LR but it seems that they also want something more. Some kind of great WE, really interesting background, etc. Goodwin seems to be like Ropes and be mostly numbers from what I've heard.

Foley Hoag tends to like top grades and journals from what I've gathered. It's probably about as selective as Choate, but Choate is kid of a black box of a firm. Numbers will certainly help, but someone described their recruiting method as "we know it when we see it."

I don't know about some of the V10 with Boston offices. Latham is brand new in Boston and so it's probably tough to gauge. I think Skadden ad Weil are both considered pretty elite firms in Boston and so they're both pretty picky with grades.

Just my opinion, but there's the big 3 in Boston (WH, RG, and Goodwin), then another band of Choate, FH, Bingham, and Skadden, and then after that, most of the firms are pretty similar in terms of "prestige" and selectivity.


This is pretty much spot on. Caveat that Weil Boston only does 1 thing really, but does it really well.


I assume bankruptcy just based on their NY office?


It's in more than one office, but not Boston.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby marmot8 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:44 pm

Not enjoying this wait- hopefully BC is released today. I noticed that at some point Leslie said "pre-selects" will go out, hopefully, before the weekend. When do we find out about lottery selections?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby RedHouse1967 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:46 pm

marmot8 wrote:Not enjoying this wait- hopefully BC is released today. I noticed that at some point Leslie said "pre-selects" will go out, hopefully, before the weekend. When do we find out about lottery selections?



They are supposed to be posted at the same time.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby bostonlawchick » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:34 pm

Yeah, someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think she said there wouldn't be a way to know if we were lottery or preselect, so I'm assuming they come out the same time? I could just be remembering wrong though.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby JusticeHarlan » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:41 pm

bostonlawchick wrote:Yeah, someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think she said there wouldn't be a way to know if we were lottery or preselect, so I'm assuming they come out the same time? I could just be remembering wrong though.

This is how it worked last year.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:17 pm

JusticeHarlan wrote:
bostonlawchick wrote:Yeah, someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think she said there wouldn't be a way to know if we were lottery or preselect, so I'm assuming they come out the same time? I could just be remembering wrong though.

This is how it worked last year.


Did BC release who preselected you 24 hours before sign ups so you could decide who/when to interview? They did this with the NY fair because of the large number of firms, and was wondering if they'll do it for OCI as well? Or if they'll just open up the bidding at the same time you find out who your preselects/lottery are.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Is it just me or are the selection statuses not showing when they said they would be?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is it just me or are the selection statuses not showing when they said they would be?


I guess OCS didn't get them up by the weekend? Same for everyone else?
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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:57 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Is it just me or are the selection statuses not showing when they said they would be?


I guess OCS didn't get them up by the weekend? Got an email about a specific firm but I guess the full OCI list will be up later? Same for everyone else?


Which firm emailed you?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:47 pm

Preselects are up tomorrow, though I have no idea what time

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:07 pm

BU's pre-selects were posted earlier today along with an email from CDO

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:06 am

what is an average number of preselects to get from these OCIs?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby bostonlawchick » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:10 am

BC preselects are up.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby 4444 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:13 am

and so it begins... :|

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:35 am

Anonymous User wrote:what is an average number of preselects to get from these OCIs?


Really depends on grades. I would bet most top 10% people get 20+ preselects. Median or below probably somewhere between 1-5 is average. BC/BU/GW and other schools that are mostly preselects are probably more or less feast or famine ITE

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:51 am

BC is up.


I'm top 20%, on a secondary journal, and have a few years of work experience. I got 6 pre-selects and I am an alternate at about 7 firms. Really bit it in one class and I think that pulled my GPA down significantly, if that makes a difference (legal writing). Any ideas how likely it is that I'll get off the wait list for at least a couple firms? I don't really feel good about my odds with only 6 interviews...

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:02 am

Median here, and a secondary journal. 3 preselects (only one that might be a lottery) and one alternate. More than I had braced myself for.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:11 am

just curious, how many preselects are the BU people getting?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:just curious, how many preselects are the BU people getting?


5 (I assume the top one is a lotto pick though, since it's GP)
1 Alt.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:just curious, how many preselects are the BU people getting?


5 (I assume the top one is a lotto pick though, since it's GP)
1 Alt.



3 pre and 2 alt.

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:29 am

if its a lotto pick does it say that it is lotto pick?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:30 am

How many alternates can you expect to open up? Is it a matter of chance or are people with better numbers more likely to have an alternate -> preselect?

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby marmot8 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:41 am

Anonymous User wrote:if its a lotto pick does it say that it is lotto pick?


Not at BC

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:53 am

I've got 21 at BU-- IP and top 25%, secondary journal

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Re: BC/BU OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:I've got 21 at BU-- IP and top 25%, secondary journal


damn. wow.




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