BC/BU OCI Forum

[Anonymous User]

A good way to compare Ropes to other firms is that they, at least, have their New Alternatives Program (NAP). They pay you to explore for a year.

You get a $60k stipend to go do WHATEVER you want for one year instead of returning immediately after graduation (e.g., get an MPH or a Tax LLM, go work in Legal Aid, go clerk, or go non-profit). With this, they don't have to no-offer or rescind full-time offers, instead they just tell you to delay returning for a year and hope the economy gets better before you return.

I would rather go to a firm that gives me an opportunity, than to one that will just rescind my offer when times get tough.

If you have an offer at Ropes, you likely have one of GP/WH who haven't deferred/mass no offered (GP did when things tanked). Ropes is only hurting because their strongest point is their transactional work (PE/M&A) which overall is doing very poorly now. GP/WH are super busy and both gave 3L/post clerks offers mostly because a lot of their Boston business is lit. While Ropes is doing layoffs now, if transaction heats up, they will likely start killing it again.

I'm not saying don't go to Ropes by any means. Its a great firm, but its more bottom-heavy (more associates to partners) than the other two and its bread and butter is not lit., which is doing well right now.

I don't know how you can say Ropes is "bottom heavy." Let's take litigation for example. According to NALP, Ropes has 27 partners and 134 associates, so about a 20% ratio. Wilmer has 27 partners in litigation and 104 associates. That's a 25% ratio. Where does the bottom-heavy aspect come from?

Granted, Ropes has a much, much larger corporate division than Wilmer. Ropes have 75 partners and 184 associates, while Wilmer has 30 partners and 36 associates. But doesn't this just attest that Ropes is much more balanced, assuming corporate doesn't go off a cliff?

I'm also unsure how exactly corporate is doing "poorly" at Ropes. I can understand it being a bit slow, but poorly?

[Anonymous User]

A good way to compare Ropes to other firms is that they, at least, have their New Alternatives Program (NAP). They pay you to explore for a year.

You get a $60k stipend to go do WHATEVER you want for one year instead of returning immediately after graduation (e.g., get an MPH or a Tax LLM, go work in Legal Aid, go clerk, or go non-profit). With this, they don't have to no-offer or rescind full-time offers, instead they just tell you to delay returning for a year and hope the economy gets better before you return.

I would rather go to a firm that gives me an opportunity, than to one that will just rescind my offer when times get tough.

If you have an offer at Ropes, you likely have one of GP/WH who haven't deferred/mass no offered (GP did when things tanked). Ropes is only hurting because their strongest point is their transactional work (PE/M&A) which overall is doing very poorly now. GP/WH are super busy and both gave 3L/post clerks offers mostly because a lot of their Boston business is lit. While Ropes is doing layoffs now, if transaction heats up, they will likely start killing it again.

I'm not saying don't go to Ropes by any means. Its a great firm, but its more bottom-heavy (more associates to partners) than the other two and its bread and butter is not lit., which is doing well right now.

I don't know how you can say Ropes is "bottom heavy." Let's take litigation for example. According to NALP, Ropes has 27 partners and 134 associates, so about a 20% ratio. Wilmer has 27 partners in litigation and 104 associates. That's a 25% ratio. Where does the bottom-heavy aspect come from?

Granted, Ropes has a much, much larger corporate division than Wilmer. Ropes have 75 partners and 184 associates, while Wilmer has 30 partners and 36 associates. But doesn't this just attest that Ropes is much more balanced, assuming corporate doesn't go off a cliff?

I'm also unsure how exactly corporate is doing "poorly" at Ropes. I can understand it being a bit slow, but poorly?

Poorly is all relative. Ropes is still the best place in Boston for PE and arguably most transaction work. Read the recession mega-thread - corporate work is just slowing down. It has nothing to do with Ropes as a firm - just the market.

[Anonymous User]

Which megathread are you referring to? I'm not sure I know about it.

[Anonymous User]

IMHO that New Alternative Program just sounds like a way to defer people voluntarily. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like a cool idea but let's call a spade a spade here.

[Anonymous User]

Is anyone else on hold at Goodwin? Haven't heard anything for weeks now since the Super Thursday

[Anonymous User]

(Sigh). This is shaping up to be a quiet week.

[Anonymous User]

(Sigh). This is shaping up to be a quiet week.

Maybe not, know someone with a Goodwin offer yesterday

[Anonymous User]

(Sigh). This is shaping up to be a quiet week.

Got a foley hoag offer yesterday.

[Anonymous User]

Any word on Edwards Wildman offers at BU?

[Anonymous User]

Any word on Edwards Wildman offers at BU?

I know of one (not mine).

[Anonymous User]

let's call a spade a spade here.

A spade that comes with $$, nonetheless.

[Anonymous User]

Since this thread has been dead for a while... Have people made decisions where they will end up? Where will you go? What were your stats?

[Anonymous User]

Any word on Edwards Wildman offers at BU?

I know of one (not mine).

Did they hear this week? Last week? (Do you know when they had a CB?)

[Anonymous User]

Any word on Edwards Wildman offers at BU?

I know of one (not mine).

Did they hear this week? Last week? (Do you know when they had a CB?)

I'm not the above poster, but it seems that Edwards is giving offers on Fridays (based on posts here and from a friend at another Boston school).

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have any info on Mintz--callbacks, offers, etc.?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have any info on Mintz--callbacks, offers, etc.?

I know a few people got offers from Mintz, and some accepted from BU.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have any info on Mintz--callbacks, offers, etc.?

I know a few people got offers from Mintz, and some accepted from BU.

I know of at least one at BC.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone from BC or BU received a Nelson Mullins offer yet? What about Hinckley Allen (offer or just a callback)?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone from BC or BU received a Nelson Mullins offer yet? What about Hinckley Allen (offer or just a callback)?

I never heard ANYTHING from Hinckley post OCI.

[Anonymous User]

(Sigh). This is shaping up to be a quiet week.

Got a Foley Hoag offer yesterday.

When was your CB?

[Anonymous User]

(Sigh). This is shaping up to be a quiet week.

Got a Foley Hoag offer yesterday.

When was your CB?

CB 9/14

[Anonymous User]

Any word from Nutter?

[Anonymous User]

Any word on offers from Sheppard Mullin?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone know of Proskauer boston offers?

[Anonymous User]

I know of one person with a Proskauer offer, I think this individual found out last week.