Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:37 pm
Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend.
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wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend.
I bid really conservatively actually. I think it was mostly my grades (somewhere between bottom 25-30%). I think in that range you need something like impressive previous work experience or awesome interviewing skills to make up for grades. I didn't have anything like that and consequently struck out. (Note, this is just a theory. It's possible that I interviewed really poorly and just didn't realize it.)Anonymous User wrote:wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend.
Try mass mailing lower-tiered firms, and other firms that aren't grade heavy. also, look into your home-market at this point. I'm very sorry that you're in this situation.Anonymous User wrote:I bid really conservatively actually. I think it was mostly my grades (somewhere between bottom 25-30%). I think in that range you need something like impressive previous work experience or awesome interviewing skills to make up for grades. I didn't have anything like that and consequently struck out. (Note, this is just a theory. It's possible that I interviewed really poorly and just didn't realize it.)Anonymous User wrote:wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend.
After cb or screener?Anonymous User wrote:Weil ding via email
+1Anonymous User wrote:any word from PW callbacks?
Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.
Sure, no problem. LR, stone, straight through. Interviewed with C. Ball, A. Yurke, K.R. Richey, L. Swanson, S. Fox, S.J. Lee. I loved the people, and felt it went well, though it was hard to gauge with Ball; she is intimidating.singwhatisaid wrote:Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.
cb scheduled tomorrow, got the call 1-2 days after screener i think.Anonymous User wrote:Any Sidley (NY) callbacks at all? Silence here.
Thanks very much! I would rather you not shut up and go away, as this info is helpful and you're clearly not trying to be obnoxious. Congrats on Debevoise as well, I've heard great things about them!CLSNerd2014 wrote:Sure, no problem. LR, stone, straight through. Interviewed with C. Ball, A. Yurke, K.R. Richey, L. Swanson, S. Fox, S.J. Lee. I loved the people, and felt it went well, though it was hard to gauge with Ball; she is intimidating.singwhatisaid wrote:Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.
Good luck, all; this is an exhausting process, but we'll all get through.
ETA: CAVEAT: Forgive me if this upsets anyone; it's really not my intention. If I should just shut up and go away, let me know, but since some requested prompt info, I wanted to provide it.
Debevoise callback yesterday morning, offer just now. Interviewed with M. Lion, P. Rodel, G. Maguire, lunch with T. Thaw, C. Dike-Minor.
This is going to depend on how you interview. I would rack up as many as possible if you did weak at EIP--which might suggest that you're not a particularly strong interviewer.Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.
I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.
Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.
Do you mean, can you stop doing callbacks that have been offered to you, or do you mean can you stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback? If it's the former, I would say if you receive an offer you are happy with, you can stop doing callbacks. If it's the latter (which it probably is), I would say that 4-5 callbacks is probably enough to get an offer given the stats you listed, if you bid realistically and if you are a good interviewer. I would go to OCS and talk to them about your prospects. If you need to take a day off to get your head back in the game, do it, but generally casting a wide net is always the best strategy unless you have stellar credentials.Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.
I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.
Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.
Can you explain what "2-6/25 range" means?Anonymous User wrote:This is going to depend on how you interview. I would rack up as many as possible if you did weak at EIP--which might suggest that you're not a particularly strong interviewer.Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.
I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.
Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.
Barring some issue with mis-bidding based on your grades:
If you did something like 20/25 at EIP, I'd say 4-5 CBs and your safe.
But if you were more in the 2-6/25 range, then you need to take as many interviews as possible and you need to just deal with it. Suck it up for a few weeks, this is your summer job and possibly beginning of your career as a young associate. You didn't come to law school and bust your ass first year to wimp out now.
+1 on the cbAnonymous User wrote:cb scheduled tomorrow, got the call 1-2 days after screener i think.Anonymous User wrote:Any Sidley (NY) callbacks at all? Silence here.
i wonder if some firms stagger cbs? I know of some people who have gotten rejections, but others who have just gotten radio silence from the same firm
You are right - I meant when is an appropriate time to stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback.Anonymous User wrote:
Do you mean, can you stop doing callbacks that have been offered to you, or do you mean can you stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback? If it's the former, I would say if you receive an offer you are happy with, you can stop doing callbacks. If it's the latter (which it probably is), I would say that 4-5 callbacks is probably enough to get an offer given the stats you listed, if you bid realistically and if you are a good interviewer. I would go to OCS and talk to them about your prospects. If you need to take a day off to get your head back in the game, do it, but generally casting a wide net is always the best strategy unless you have stellar credentials.