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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:37 pm

Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend. :|

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

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Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend. :|


wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:43 pm

Weil ding via email

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:48 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend. :|


wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?
I bid really conservatively actually. I think it was mostly my grades (somewhere between bottom 25-30%). I think in that range you need something like impressive previous work experience or awesome interviewing skills to make up for grades. I didn't have anything like that and consequently struck out. (Note, this is just a theory. It's possible that I interviewed really poorly and just didn't realize it.)

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:54 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Kaye Scholer e-mail ding today, bringing my totals to 16 dings, 0 callbacks. I think I gave up on this whole process some time over the weekend. :|


wow. so sorry to hear that. do you know if it was an error in bidding or your interview style?
I bid really conservatively actually. I think it was mostly my grades (somewhere between bottom 25-30%). I think in that range you need something like impressive previous work experience or awesome interviewing skills to make up for grades. I didn't have anything like that and consequently struck out. (Note, this is just a theory. It's possible that I interviewed really poorly and just didn't realize it.)


Try mass mailing lower-tiered firms, and other firms that aren't grade heavy. also, look into your home-market at this point. I'm very sorry that you're in this situation.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Weil ding via email

After cb or screener?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:17 pm

screener

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:26 pm

WSGR California ding by email

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:any word from PW callbacks?


+1

any news from last week's callbacks?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:01 pm

Has s&c sent out ding email??

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:36 pm

sigh i haven't even heard back from weil yet.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby CLSNerd2014 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:47 pm

Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby singwhatisaid » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:53 pm

CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.


Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:00 pm

Any Sidley (NY) callbacks at all? Silence here.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby CLSNerd2014 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:08 pm

singwhatisaid wrote:
CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.


Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?


Sure, no problem. LR, stone, straight through. Interviewed with C. Ball, A. Yurke, K.R. Richey, L. Swanson, S. Fox, S.J. Lee. I loved the people, and felt it went well, though it was hard to gauge with Ball; she is intimidating.

Good luck, all; this is an exhausting process, but we'll all get through.

ETA: CAVEAT: Forgive me if this upsets anyone; it's really not my intention. If I should just shut up and go away, let me know, but since some requested prompt info, I wanted to provide it.

Debevoise callback yesterday morning, offer just now. Interviewed with M. Lion, P. Rodel, G. Maguire, lunch with T. Thaw, C. Dike-Minor.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any Sidley (NY) callbacks at all? Silence here.


cb scheduled tomorrow, got the call 1-2 days after screener i think.

i wonder if some firms stagger cbs? I know of some people who have gotten rejections, but others who have just gotten radio silence from the same firm

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby singwhatisaid » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:33 pm

CLSNerd2014 wrote:
singwhatisaid wrote:
CLSNerd2014 wrote:Jones Day (NY) callback this morning, offer about an hour ago.


Wow, congrats! Do you mind sharing stats & ppl with whom you interviewed?


Sure, no problem. LR, stone, straight through. Interviewed with C. Ball, A. Yurke, K.R. Richey, L. Swanson, S. Fox, S.J. Lee. I loved the people, and felt it went well, though it was hard to gauge with Ball; she is intimidating.

Good luck, all; this is an exhausting process, but we'll all get through.

ETA: CAVEAT: Forgive me if this upsets anyone; it's really not my intention. If I should just shut up and go away, let me know, but since some requested prompt info, I wanted to provide it.

Debevoise callback yesterday morning, offer just now. Interviewed with M. Lion, P. Rodel, G. Maguire, lunch with T. Thaw, C. Dike-Minor.


Thanks very much! I would rather you not shut up and go away, as this info is helpful and you're clearly not trying to be obnoxious. Congrats on Debevoise as well, I've heard great things about them!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:55 pm

DPW callback last thursday, today they called me to confirm the correct spelling of my name (it's a common name with multiple common spellings)... i was stoked for 3 seconds when i picked up the call... i don't know if i should be happy tho

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:58 pm

DPW Callback on Thursday morning. Offer call tonight at 7. I'd given up hope. A friend had a friday CB and got an offer Saturday morning, so I thought I was out, but it seems DPW doesn't move at a fixed rate or with a fixed system--so don't give up hope if yours was earlier!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:52 pm

Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.

I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.

Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.

I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.

Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.


This is going to depend on how you interview. I would rack up as many as possible if you did weak at EIP--which might suggest that you're not a particularly strong interviewer.

Barring some issue with mis-bidding based on your grades:

If you did something like 20/25 at EIP, I'd say 4-5 CBs and your safe.

But if you were more in the 2-6/25 range, then you need to take as many interviews as possible and you need to just deal with it. Suck it up for a few weeks, this is your summer job and possibly beginning of your career as a young associate. You didn't come to law school and bust your ass first year to wimp out now.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.

I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.

Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.


Do you mean, can you stop doing callbacks that have been offered to you, or do you mean can you stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback? If it's the former, I would say if you receive an offer you are happy with, you can stop doing callbacks. If it's the latter (which it probably is), I would say that 4-5 callbacks is probably enough to get an offer given the stats you listed, if you bid realistically and if you are a good interviewer. I would go to OCS and talk to them about your prospects. If you need to take a day off to get your head back in the game, do it, but generally casting a wide net is always the best strategy unless you have stellar credentials.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:31 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Is there a consensus on the number of callbacks necessary to safely assume I'll get an offer? Firms are mostly V50-V100, all with ~50% CB to offer ratios. Class sizes vary from 5-30. Some NYC, many not.

I desperately want to stop mass mailing. I am so fucking burned out from EIP/prepping/mass mailing that I'm pretty sure my CB performance will start suffering if I keep it up. And I have had 0 positive responses to my mass mails so far.

Hope this doesn't come across as trolling. As always, best of luck to everyone.


This is going to depend on how you interview. I would rack up as many as possible if you did weak at EIP--which might suggest that you're not a particularly strong interviewer.

Barring some issue with mis-bidding based on your grades:

If you did something like 20/25 at EIP, I'd say 4-5 CBs and your safe.

But if you were more in the 2-6/25 range, then you need to take as many interviews as possible and you need to just deal with it. Suck it up for a few weeks, this is your summer job and possibly beginning of your career as a young associate. You didn't come to law school and bust your ass first year to wimp out now.


Can you explain what "2-6/25 range" means?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:38 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any Sidley (NY) callbacks at all? Silence here.


cb scheduled tomorrow, got the call 1-2 days after screener i think.

i wonder if some firms stagger cbs? I know of some people who have gotten rejections, but others who have just gotten radio silence from the same firm


+1 on the cb

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:39 pm

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Do you mean, can you stop doing callbacks that have been offered to you, or do you mean can you stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback? If it's the former, I would say if you receive an offer you are happy with, you can stop doing callbacks. If it's the latter (which it probably is), I would say that 4-5 callbacks is probably enough to get an offer given the stats you listed, if you bid realistically and if you are a good interviewer. I would go to OCS and talk to them about your prospects. If you need to take a day off to get your head back in the game, do it, but generally casting a wide net is always the best strategy unless you have stellar credentials.


You are right - I meant when is an appropriate time to stop applying to firms in the hopes of getting a callback.

Thank you for the insight. I'll talk to career services tomorrow.

Also, with 2-6/25, I think the other anon meant that there is probably a difference in the interview skills of someone that got 20 CBs out of 25 screeners versus a person that got between 2 and 6 CBs out of 25 screeners.
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