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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Still no CB's here. About half a dozen dings via e-mail. Not feeling very confident at the moment, but maintaining some hope because a decent number of my interviews were with firms from another market...


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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Still no CB's here. About half a dozen dings via e-mail. Not feeling very confident at the moment, but maintaining some hope because a decent number of my interviews were with firms from another market...


Stay strong buddy. Non-NY offices tend to take longer. Plus, there are lots of callbacks still going out.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:15 pm

Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


Seriously? I have only three and am seriously nervous, relax with you seven callbacks buddy.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:20 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


Seriously? I have only three and am seriously nervous, relax with you seven callbacks buddy.


Not that big a difference in number really. Especially considering people seem to have many more...Hopefully I am allowed to feel nervous as well

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Still no CB's here. About half a dozen dings via e-mail. Not feeling very confident at the moment, but maintaining some hope because a decent number of my interviews were with firms from another market...


Right there with you, buddy. Only have 1 CB, around the same amount of dings, and applied out of market for the most part. I am keeping up the hope, but I am also preparing for the mass mail insanity to begin. Best of luck.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:49 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


Seriously? I have only three and am seriously nervous, relax with you seven callbacks buddy.


Not that big a difference in number really. Especially considering people seem to have many more...Hopefully I am allowed to feel nervous as well

Everyone's allowed to feel nervous obviously, but reading this thread alone (not to mention talking to anyone else at our school) should teach you that worrying about "only" seven callbacks is probably unwarranted, and can be hurtful to most of us, who have nowhere near that number. Are all of your friends on LR?

Good luck!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:00 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


Seriously? I have only three and am seriously nervous, relax with you seven callbacks buddy.


Not that big a difference in number really. Especially considering people seem to have many more...Hopefully I am allowed to feel nervous as well

Everyone's allowed to feel nervous obviously, but reading this thread alone (not to mention talking to anyone else at our school) should teach you that worrying about "only" seven callbacks is probably unwarranted, and can be hurtful to most of us, who have nowhere near that number. Are all of your friends on LR?

Good luck!


I apologize if I contributed to anyone else's anxiety, really not my intention. I was at 2 for many days before getting the rest, so I was unsure if people with one or two a few days ago had experienced the same thing. Anyway sorry again. I found the 18 interview person obnoxious and really didn't mean to behave in the same way if that's how it came across. Good luck to all.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:03 pm

Weird phone call from Herbert Smith recruiter - might be a cb but I'll update later if so (interviewer KR)
Davis & Gilbert cb by email (interviewer MK)

Hogan Lovells email ding (SE)

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby somewhatwayward » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


I felt safe with eight last year. I am assuming NYC, right? Most NYC firms have offer:CB ratios of around .5.

As it turned out three of the first five turned into offers, and I cancelled the other three bc I preferred the original offers. A little while later I got a fourth offer. Four out of five is unusually high, but I would feel safe with seven...prepare like crazy, though!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:24 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


I felt safe with eight last year. I am assuming NYC, right? Most NYC firms have offer:CB ratios of around .5.

As it turned out three of the first five turned into offers, and I cancelled the other three bc I preferred the original offers. A little while later I got a fourth offer. Four out of five is unusually high, but I would feel safe with seven...prepare like crazy, though!


can you talk a little about "prepare like crazy." I ask because I had a really nice, really casual callback. Who knows if they liked me, but it certainly didn't feel like a test of my preparation, more my personality. Of course others could be different. So how should one prepare?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:30 pm

Any word from Latham NY (AS)?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby somewhatwayward » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:35 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


I felt safe with eight last year. I am assuming NYC, right? Most NYC firms have offer:CB ratios of around .5.

As it turned out three of the first five turned into offers, and I cancelled the other three bc I preferred the original offers. A little while later I got a fourth offer. Four out of five is unusually high, but I would feel safe with seven...prepare like crazy, though!


can you talk a little about "prepare like crazy." I ask because I had a really nice, really casual callback. Who knows if they liked me, but it certainly didn't feel like a test of my preparation, more my personality. Of course others could be different. So how should one prepare?


CBs range firm to firm and person to person. Some are casual, and some grill you. They are a lot about personality (your grades usually don't matter as much bc generally if you got the CB, they are okay with your grades). For casual CBs, I guess maybe you don't need prep, but how do you know ahead of time whether one will be casual. Even if it is casual, it can't hurt to impress with your knowledge about the firm. Knowledge shows interest. Preparation for me means scouring the internet for info about thew firm and making notes of anything I find interesting and can turn into a question. CB interviews are often longer than screeners (I mean each individual interview within a CB...several of mine were 30 min rather than 20 min, and they frequently went past 30 mins anyway), and you need to assume you are going to be asking questions the whole time.

Preparation also means writing down answers to stock questions (why this firm, why lit or corp, why this city, did you like law school, do you have any questions, etc) and rehearsing your answers out loud several times. I also rehearse questions out loud. As I rehearse them, I modify my word choice and the information I am including. For example, when I interviewed with Skadden, I asked about their rotation program, but I didn't just say 'how do you like the rotation program?' I said 'I read that Skadden's hiring partner emphasizes that young associates should acquire a basic set of general lega skills rather than becoming specialists right away. I think this is important because it helps one to understand one's own specialty to understand how others intersect with it and because as some areas recede and others become more prominent, associates may need to shift practice areas. This is part of the reason Skadden has rotations. Can you tell me about your experience with the rotations - did it help you narrow in on an area of interest, and has understanding other practice areas helped you perform more competently within your own?' It was more articulate than that but you get the idea.

You are trying to make partners want you to work for them and associates want to work with you. Thus, with associates it is not about impressing as much as it is about getting a pleasant conversation going.
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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:38 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:
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somewhatwayward wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on whether 7 CBs is enough to reasonably hope for one offer? Not sure if I should be mass mailing. Hoping it's not too late for that in case I should be.


I felt safe with eight last year. I am assuming NYC, right? Most NYC firms have offer:CB ratios of around .5.

As it turned out three of the first five turned into offers, and I cancelled the other three bc I preferred the original offers. A little while later I got a fourth offer. Four out of five is unusually high, but I would feel safe with seven...prepare like crazy, though!


can you talk a little about "prepare like crazy." I ask because I had a really nice, really casual callback. Who knows if they liked me, but it certainly didn't feel like a test of my preparation, more my personality. Of course others could be different. So how should one prepare?


CBs range firm to firm and person to person. Some are casual, and some grill you. They are a lot about personality (your grades usually don't matter as much bc generally if you got the CB, they are okay with your grades). For casual CBs, I guess maybe you don't need prep, but how do you know ahead of time whether one will be casual. Even if it is casual, it can't hurt to impress with your knowledge about the firm. Knowledge shows interest. Preparation for me means scouring the internet for info about thew firm and making notes of anything I find interesting and can turn into a question. CB interviews are often longer than screeners (I mean each individual interview within a CB...several of mine were 30 min rather than 20 min, and they frequently went past 30 mins anyway), and you need to assume you are going to be asking questions the whole time.

Preparation also means writing down answers to stock questions (why this firm, why lit or corp, why this city, did you like law school, do you have any questions, etc) and rehearsing your answers out loud several times. I also rehearse questions out loud. As I rehearse them, I modify my word choice and the information I am including.

You are trying to make partners want you to work for them and associates want to work with you. Thus, with associates it is not about impressing as much as it is about getting a pleasant conversation going.


cool thanks

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:53 pm

So what are the chances of getting a callback from an NYC firm at this point? I'm pretty much assuming that the callbacks I have now are the only ones I'll get.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:59 pm

Kirkland and Ellis ding via email.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland and Ellis ding via email.


+1 :(

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So what are the chances of getting a callback from an NYC firm at this point? I'm pretty much assuming that the callbacks I have now are the only ones I'll get.


I got a callback from a top NY firm today, until a rejection you can keep hope alive.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby somewhatwayward » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:20 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland and Ellis ding via email.


+1 :(


IMHO you're not missing anything

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:01 pm

The preliminary results from CBs thus far this year seems much worse than last year.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The preliminary results from CBs thus far this year seems much worse than last year.



I would concur with regards to NYC firms. Other markets seem about the same to me (but then again, I'm only going after two so I only speak anecdotally).

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:15 pm

Anyone hear from Latham San Diego?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby bistduverrueckt » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:23 pm

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:47 pm

Were the Kirkland dings callback dings or offer dings?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So what are the chances of getting a callback from an NYC firm at this point? I'm pretty much assuming that the callbacks I have now are the only ones I'll get.


After multiple CB calls Thursday, Friday, Monday, and Tuesday, I had nothing Wednesday and Thursday and then got one today.




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