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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Kring345 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:44 pm

0L starting CLS next month. Just curious about the new curve you're referring to.

Good luck to you all! Sorry to hijack.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:51 pm

The Writing Component handbook says offers will be made by July 3, and offerees have to accept by 11:59pm on July 3. I dont know of anyone who has gotten an offer yet though

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The Writing Component handbook says offers will be made by July 3, and offerees have to accept by 11:59pm on July 3. I dont know of anyone who has gotten an offer yet though

I do.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The Writing Component handbook says offers will be made by July 3, and offerees have to accept by 11:59pm on July 3. I dont know of anyone who has gotten an offer yet though

I do.


Well don't keep us hanging. Today? What time?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The Writing Component handbook says offers will be made by July 3, and offerees have to accept by 11:59pm on July 3. I dont know of anyone who has gotten an offer yet though

I do.


Well don't keep us hanging. Today? What time?


Pretty sure a lot of people found out yesterday.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:46 pm

Kring345 wrote:0L starting CLS next month. Just curious about the new curve you're referring to.

Good luck to you all! Sorry to hijack.


they shifted the curve to expand the higher lower grades and contract the lower ones. 99% sure it started in the spring only.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:00 am

Anyone hear something from a secondary journal? What's the deal?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:32 am

secondary journals would have to be today right? Resume upload and bidding starts tomorrow

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:secondary journals would have to be today right? Resume upload and bidding starts tomorrow

Just heard from a secondary

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:secondary journals would have to be today right? Resume upload and bidding starts tomorrow

Just heard from a secondary


Email or call?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:56 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:secondary journals would have to be today right? Resume upload and bidding starts tomorrow

Just heard from a secondary


Email or call?

Call. Good luck everyone!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:In terms of bidding and success rate etc, is there really any meaningful difference between very low Stone (think right on the cut off) and median/slightly above? I can't imagine the "Stone" designation on your resume really means much once they see your transcript. At that point, does it make the most sense to just make a bid list of all <50% honors hiring firms and be done with it?

Bumping this question. Should low Stone be bidding like median students, especially given the uncertainties of rank due to the curve change? What is the deal with firms with 60-80% honors hiring - is it worth bidding on them, or are they actually going for high Stone/Kent and some exceptional non-honors students?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:25 pm

Median bid list here. I lean 60-40 lit over transactional, but a job is first priority. Average/good work experience. Good interviewer. Critiques? All NY offices

Proskauer Rose
Paul Hastings
Mayer Brown
Sidley Austin
Kirkland Ellis
Schulte Roth
Kaye Scholer
Sheppard Mullin
Brown Rudnick
Bignham McCutchin
Baker McKenzie
Akin Gump
SNR Denton
Ropes Grey
Hughes Hubbard
Allen Overy
Dechert
Curtis Mallet
King Spalding
Alston Bird
Jones Day
Milbank Tweed
Cadwalader
Wilkie Farr
DavisPolk

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this question. Should low Stone be bidding like median students, especially given the uncertainties of rank due to the curve change? What is the deal with firms with 60-80% honors hiring - is it worth bidding on them, or are they actually going for high Stone/Kent and some exceptional non-honors students?


It's a safe bet that LR people are getting many of the non-honors spots at firms with 80% Stone rates.

As to whether it's smart to bid more conservatively in light of the curve change, I think that's a good idea given how the NYU's post-recurving EIP season went.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby piccolittle » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:51 pm

Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:23 pm

I have a few years of non-impressive work experience. Not a good interviewer. 3.65 GPA. Secondary Journal. Only interested in litigation. I originally had some DC firms on here but my career counselor told me DC would not be in play for me with my grades. My list is all NY now. Feedback?

Davis, Polk, and Wardwell
Ropes & Gray
Sullivan and Cromwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Weil Gotschal and Manges
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen, and Hamilton
Simpson, Thatcher, and Barlett
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
JonesDay
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Chadborne and Park
WilmerHale
Gibson Dunn
Greenberg Traurig
Freshfields, Bruckhaus, and Deringer
White & Case
Paul Hastings
Proskauer Rose
Akin Gump
Arnold & Porter
Hogan Lovells
Boies, Schiller, and Flexner
Cravath, Swaine, and Moore
Goodwin Proctor
Bingham McCutchen

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:12 pm

piccolittle wrote:Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


CSO office person said they should be announced before bidding ends, but if not, it's totally a good thing to have to bring up as a reason that your resume is updated at an interview.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby itbdvorm » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have a few years of non-impressive work experience. Not a good interviewer. 3.65 GPA. Secondary Journal. Only interested in litigation. I originally had some DC firms on here but my career counselor told me DC would not be in play for me with my grades. My list is all NY now. Feedback?

Davis, Polk, and Wardwell
Ropes & Gray
Sullivan and Cromwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Weil Gotschal and Manges
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen, and Hamilton
Simpson, Thatcher, and Barlett
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
JonesDay
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Chadborne and Park
WilmerHale
Gibson Dunn
Greenberg Traurig
Freshfields, Bruckhaus, and Deringer
White & Case
Paul Hastings
Proskauer Rose
Akin Gump
Arnold & Porter
Hogan Lovells
Boies, Schiller, and Flexner
Cravath, Swaine, and Moore
Goodwin Proctor
Bingham McCutchen


There are some very good NY firms that should be in play that aren't on there (I'm thinking Skadden, Kirkland and Latham as three that jump out), not sure if there's a particular reason.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:17 pm

itbdvorm wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I have a few years of non-impressive work experience. Not a good interviewer. 3.65 GPA. Secondary Journal. Only interested in litigation. I originally had some DC firms on here but my career counselor told me DC would not be in play for me with my grades. My list is all NY now. Feedback?

Davis, Polk, and Wardwell
Ropes & Gray
Sullivan and Cromwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Weil Gotschal and Manges
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen, and Hamilton
Simpson, Thatcher, and Barlett
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
JonesDay
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Chadborne and Park
WilmerHale
Gibson Dunn
Greenberg Traurig
Freshfields, Bruckhaus, and Deringer
White & Case
Paul Hastings
Proskauer Rose
Akin Gump
Arnold & Porter
Hogan Lovells
Boies, Schiller, and Flexner
Cravath, Swaine, and Moore
Goodwin Proctor
Bingham McCutchen


There are some very good NY firms that should be in play that aren't on there (I'm thinking Skadden, Kirkland and Latham as three that jump out), not sure if there's a particular reason.


I have a possibly irrational bias against Skadden (but perhaps I should reconsider that). I've heard that Latham is kind of fratty and that is what I do not want. But I'll look into Kirkland. Thanks.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby MTC87 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
piccolittle wrote:Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


CSO office person said they should be announced before bidding ends, but if not, it's totally a good thing to have to bring up as a reason that your resume is updated at an interview.


Last year, they were announced July 1.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have a few years of non-impressive work experience. Not a good interviewer. 3.65 GPA. Secondary Journal. Only interested in litigation. I originally had some DC firms on here but my career counselor told me DC would not be in play for me with my grades. My list is all NY now. Feedback?

Davis, Polk, and Wardwell
Ropes & Gray
Sullivan and Cromwell
Debevoise & Plimpton
Weil Gotschal and Manges
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen, and Hamilton
Simpson, Thatcher, and Barlett
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
JonesDay
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy
Shearman & Sterling
Clifford Chance
Chadborne and Park
WilmerHale
Gibson Dunn
Greenberg Traurig
Freshfields, Bruckhaus, and Deringer
White & Case
Paul Hastings
Proskauer Rose
Akin Gump
Arnold & Porter
Hogan Lovells
Boies, Schiller, and Flexner
Cravath, Swaine, and Moore
Goodwin Proctor
Bingham McCutchen


Weil and GDC should probably be above DPW, S&C, and STB if you want to assure yourself a screener, since the latter three firms usually have bid:interview ratios of 80-100%. Also, I don't think DC is out of the question with a 3.65 and a secondary journal. Cov/Wilmer DC might be, but there are lots of DC offices that will have EIP schedules.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:43 pm

MTC87 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
piccolittle wrote:Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


CSO office person said they should be announced before bidding ends, but if not, it's totally a good thing to have to bring up as a reason that your resume is updated at an interview.


Last year, they were announced July 1.


How were they announced? Just by being posted on the website, or via e-mail to the whole school like LR was, or some other novel method I haven't even thought of?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby CLSNerd2014 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:43 pm

Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


I emailed the registrar and asked, and was told:

Dear [me],
Academic prizes for rising 2L students will be announced at the end of July.
Regards,
Iris C. Lee

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:59 pm

CLSNerd2014 wrote:
Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


I emailed the registrar and asked, and was told:

Dear [me],
Academic prizes for rising 2L students will be announced at the end of July.
Regards,
Iris C. Lee


Good, because there was no way I was going to find room for 5 new items on my resume :wink:

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Re: Columbia EIP 2012 Superthread

Postby MTC87 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
MTC87 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
piccolittle wrote:Not necessarily asking for myself, but does anyone know when they announce academic prizes (not just honors) for 1L?


CSO office person said they should be announced before bidding ends, but if not, it's totally a good thing to have to bring up as a reason that your resume is updated at an interview.


Last year, they were announced July 1.


How were they announced? Just by being posted on the website, or via e-mail to the whole school like LR was, or some other novel method I haven't even thought of?


Schoolwide email. I don't believe there was an initial closed-list email as there was with LR.




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