2013 Vault Rankings Forum

[GeePee]

Why does it seem like the firms that are doing very well right now are moving down? These rankings are such nonsense.

[IAFG]

Kirkland's MARKET SHATTERING BONUSES lead to cemented V10 status. Sorry S&C bros for your prestige hit. Looking forward though for anon posts from Skadden SAs referencing their V3 firm.

[rad lulz]

So what the Best Firm to work for 2013?

Anyone have a Gold subscription or access?

Glad you asked this question anon so no one would know you're gunning for DAT BEST QOL, BROTHER.

[Anonymous User]

So what the Frattiest Firm to work for 2013?

Anyone have a Gold subscription or access?

[Julio_El_Chavo]

How the hell is Latham a V10 again?

[Detrox]

How the hell is Latham a V10 again?

Because the people who rank firms for this stuff are not the ones who got LATTTHAMED.

[rad lulz]

So what the Frattiest Firm to work for 2013?

Anyone have a Gold subscription or access?

See above:

Beta bros at MoFo are literally getting laughed at by alpha Shearman associates who spend their extra prestige points on bottle service and blow.

Na. Alpha Mofo litigators just DOMINATING the LES bar scene.

[Anonymous User]

Beta bros at MoFo are literally getting laughed at by alpha Shearman associates who spend their extra prestige points on bottle service and blow.

Na. Alpha Mofo litigators just DOMINATING the LES bar scene.

ALPHA as FUCK MoFo SF litigator bros will be STYLING on dem orrick bros all weekend and unequivocally CRUSHING the bar scene all up in union square and the marina, no doubt.

[IAFG]

God it's so hot when TLS speaks XO.

[Old Gregg]

Right around post #1 did we get the hint that vault rankings don't matter. Almost every post thereafter reeks of self-conscious circle-jerking.

[bk1]

Anon abuse ITT gets week bans from here on out.

[Magnificent]

W&C and MTO are probably the two best firms to work for in the V100. These ranking are a joke.

[Anonymous User]

If after all bankruptcy matters, they still gave Dewey a good ranking, I really doubt how financially viable and solvent other firms in top 25 list are...

[005618502]

If after all bankruptcy matters, they still gave Dewey a good ranking, I really doubt how financially viable and solvent other firms in top 25 list are...

Ban his ass BK!

[rayiner]

A better way to look at the Vault rankings is geographically then alphabetically.

Here are the Vault 25:

New York:
Boies Schiller
Cleary
Cravath
Davis Polk
Debevoise
Paul Weiss
Skadden
Simpson
Shearman
Sullivan
Wachtell
Weil
White & Case

Washington, DC:
Arnold & Porter
Covington
Williams & Connolly
Wilmer Hale
Jones Day

Chicago:
Kirkland & Ellis
Sidley Austin

San Francisco:
Morrison & Foerster

Los Angeles:
Gibson Dunn
Latham
O'Melveny & Myers
Quinn Emmanuel

Boston:
Ropes & Gray

Aside from Boies, which is probably too boutique-y to be on the list (like Susman or Munger), Jones Day (which doesn't have a home market), and the egregious White & Case trolling, this seems like a pretty good listing of the top few very large firms in each of the top several markets.

[ajaxconstructions]

White & Case trolling? Are they that overranked?

[Big Shrimpin]

Beta bros at MoFo are literally getting laughed at by alpha Shearman associates who spend their extra prestige points on bottle service and blow.

Na. Alpha Mofo litigators just DOMINATING the LES bar scene.

ALPHA as FUCK MoFo SF litigator bros will be STYLING on dem orrick bros all weekend and unequivocally CRUSHING the bar scene all up in union square and the marina, no doubt.

I've bore witness to the styling, especially in the Marina. Fratty as FUARK.

Lol rankings.

[TaipeiMort]

What functional purpose does the Vault rankings have for us?

That's a clown question, bro.

I really, really, hope that quote sticks around

Me too.

http://politicker.com/2012/06/harry-rei ... stion-bro/

[Reinschmicker]

What functional purpose does the Vault rankings have for us?

That's a clown question, bro.

http://politicker.com/2012/06/harry-rei ... stion-bro/

Glorious

[bjsesq]

From 45-39. It seems Vault may ENJOY DLA a little more than its associates do.

[Blindmelon]

Boston:
Ropes & Gray

Aside from Boies, which is probably too boutique-y to be on the list (like Susman or Munger), Jones Day (which doesn't have a home market), and the egregious White & Case trolling, this seems like a pretty good listing of the top few very large firms in each of the top several markets.

Egregious anti-WilmerHale trolling.

Anyone looking to work in Boston should seriously ignore Vault. WilmerHale (21)/Ropes (25) are pretty much equal with each being better at one thing or another; then Goodwin (in the 40s?) is a slight step behind; then Mintz (90s?)/Choate/foley hoag, etc with Choate/Foley not even on the Vault list, yet are extremely strong Boston firms.

[concurrent fork]

(Wilmer SA)

[kaiser]

With the revenue that Cahill brings in, and the excellent bonuses they give, why exactly do they fall in the rankings to below 50?

[rayiner]

Boston:
Ropes & Gray

Aside from Boies, which is probably too boutique-y to be on the list (like Susman or Munger), Jones Day (which doesn't have a home market), and the egregious White & Case trolling, this seems like a pretty good listing of the top few very large firms in each of the top several markets.

Egregious anti-WilmerHale trolling.

I didn't double-list firms that had multiple home bases. So Latham is listed in its original LA office instead of in NY. I listed Wilmer Hale in DC because Wilmer Cutler was bigger than Hale & Dorr and I tend to think of the combined entity as a "DC firm."

But the Wilmer Hale example strengthens my point. Before the merger, Wilmer Cutler and Hale & Dorr were both in the V25. As you say, Ropes & Gray and Hale & Dorr were peers at the top of the Boston market.

The V25 does a pretty good job identifying firms like Ropes & Gray and Hale & Dorr that are the top couple in the major markets. The randomness of the specific ordering within the V25 really has more to do with how little sense it makes to order firms in different major markets relative to each other.

[IAFG]

With the revenue that Cahill brings in, and the excellent bonuses they give, why exactly do they fall in the rankings to below 50?

Why aren't the USNWR rankings a ranking of placement power? Methodology that doesn't reflect our priorities, obvs.