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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:21 am

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Also got a Debevoise NY ding via email Sat.

What would YP even mean in this case? based on grades?

Gibson NY callback, not invited to dinner. MoFo NY has come back as well



What I mean is I know quite a few people with stellar grades who got dinged at Deb, some with great WE and some without. Also, the ding interviewer spent nearly the entire time talking about why we'd be unhappy at a place like Cravath. Just seems like assumptions were pretty firm. Just my experience - probably means nothing.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:37 am

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Anonymous User wrote:5H5P bidding dc
0 CB
4 dings
did a mock interview with OCS thursday AM, enthusiastic response

anyone else similarly hating life? dinged so far at fried frank, cleary, o'melveny and crowell... camaraderie and/or fellow self hatred in this sea of self satisfied/pleased/happy/whatever other hatable comrades appreciated :)

I am not quite as annoyed as you, but I had a shit-ton of interviews, possibly the most in the entire school. My grades were median. Bid in a smaller market with decent ties, and in NY. Got three CBs in NY and nothing in the smaller market.

Did a mock with OCS on Thursday and they fine tuned my performance in certain areas. Had 11 interviews after that, and seven of them felt really good. Did not get one more callback.


Depends on what smaller market? From what I've heard DC and some of the Cali markets are developing bloodbaths this year, even for H students. People are getting something, but not necessarily 10+ cbs.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:Also, the ding interviewer spent nearly the entire time talking about why we'd be unhappy at a place like Cravath. Just seems like assumptions were pretty firm. Just my experience - probably means nothing.

Yeah, I heard that this happened to someone else (or maybe it was you).

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:53 am

Anonymous User wrote:Did people hear from the following firms, and when?

Cahill
Choate Hall & Stewart


CBs within 24 hours of each interview (Tuesday/wednesday maybe? Days are blurring together...)

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:00 am

Anonymous User wrote:Any Gibson dc people who weren't invited to dinner get a cb? Any more Kirkland dc news? Jones Day? Sullcrom dc? Has anyone received any cbs over the weekend?

what do you mean any more kirkland dc? has anyone heard from them? i assumed that no friday screeners would respond until monday

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:03 am

Anonymous User wrote:Depends on what smaller market? From what I've heard DC and some of the Cali markets are developing bloodbaths this year, even for H students. People are getting something, but not necessarily 10+ cbs.

DC is a bloodbath if you don't have grades, Cali is a bloodbath if you don't have ties.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:22 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten dings from NYC firms? I haven't received any ding emails/snail mail, but also haven't heard from certain firms that interviewed Monday. I'm assuming I'm not getting callbacks, but just wanted to see what dings have gone out for NYC.


WLRK ding on Friday via email.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:23 am

I read one report of a Kirkland dc callback earlier in the thread

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:I read one report of a Kirkland dc callback earlier in the thread

I know of 2 people who heard from Kirkland dc on Friday evening.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:06 am

Interviewers?

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear from:

Sidley NY
Milbank NY
Wilmer Hale Boston
Freshfields and Allen Overy London?

I spoke with an associate from Milbank NY who said their hiring committee isn't meeting until Monday to decide who gets a callback.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:07 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Also got a Debevoise NY ding via email Sat.

What would YP even mean in this case? based on grades?

Gibson NY callback, not invited to dinner. MoFo NY has come back as well



What I mean is I know quite a few people with stellar grades who got dinged at Deb, some with great WE and some without. Also, the ding interviewer spent nearly the entire time talking about why we'd be unhappy at a place like Cravath. Just seems like assumptions were pretty firm. Just my experience - probably means nothing.


Friend who got every single firm he/she applied to last year (basically the most selective in every major market -- SF, LA, Boston, DC, NY) still got an offer from Deb. Not sure if it's YP.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:57 pm

bump

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:18 pm

So OCS always talks about how lots of firms can be slow and take days to week to give cbs. However it seems that almost every major firm has given cbs already and quickly. So at what point, if not already, should I assume no more CBs are coming and finalize all my callbacks and set my schedule. Wilmer DC seems like it might not call ppl till monday but otherwise what othet v20 firms should one wait on?

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So OCS always talks about how lots of firms can be slow and take days to week to give cbs. However it seems that almost every major firm has given cbs already and quickly. So at what point, if not already, should I assume no more CBs are coming and finalize all my callbacks and set my schedule. Wilmer DC seems like it might not call ppl till monday but otherwise what othet v20 firms should one wait on?

I personally get the impression that with the possible exception of firms that interviewed Friday, the CBs are largely done for the huge firms. Sure, there's the exception every year where someone gets a callback nine days later - you can see this in all the previous EIP threads, and in Columbia's this year. But it seems that the vast majority of the callbacks go out in lumps in the day after the interview.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:49 pm

Has anyone heard from OCS that you're at any disadvantage in terms of getting an offer if you interview, say, the second week of flyouts?

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:06 pm

30 interviews, 3 callbacks, pretty average grades, thought I was a decent interviewer (and OCS didn't disagree). I was looking at the CB/Offer rate, and thinking that 60% or so means that I have a decent shot. Then it occurred to me that screeners to callbacks is like a 45% success rate and I batted a solid 10%. Now I'm freaking out.

Console me.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from OCS that you're at any disadvantage in terms of getting an offer if you interview, say, the second week of flyouts?

Most firms are telling me the first available interview is our second week. Keep in mind that many schools haven't done OCI yet.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:30 interviews, 3 callbacks, pretty average grades, thought I was a decent interviewer (and OCS didn't disagree). I was looking at the CB/Offer rate, and thinking that 60% or so means that I have a decent shot. Then it occurred to me that screeners to callbacks is like a 45% success rate and I batted a solid 10%. Now I'm freaking out.

Console me.

Well, I honestly think that 3 CBs will almost certainly get an offer. Also, there are a lot of CBs still to come from Thursday / Friday screeners.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:10 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from OCS that you're at any disadvantage in terms of getting an offer if you interview, say, the second week of flyouts?

Most firms are telling me the first available interview is our second week. Keep in mind that many schools haven't done OCI yet.


And the third week also, especially for non-NYC firms? If we are applying to two cities can we do one the week of the 27th and one the week of the 4th- does that make sense?

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:16 pm

Anyone heard from Gunderson, Fenwick, Cooley or Wilson Sonsini? Got MoFo on Friday, but otherwise it's been dead silent on the SF/SV front. I know they are always slow, but some of them were pretty early in the week this year.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:16 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:30 interviews, 3 callbacks, pretty average grades, thought I was a decent interviewer (and OCS didn't disagree). I was looking at the CB/Offer rate, and thinking that 60% or so means that I have a decent shot. Then it occurred to me that screeners to callbacks is like a 45% success rate and I batted a solid 10%. Now I'm freaking out.

Console me.

Well, I honestly think that 3 CBs will almost certainly get an offer. Also, there are a lot of CBs still to come from Thursday / Friday screeners.
I hope you're right. It's one thing though to be on the wrong side of the 45-50% callback equation. But Cahill, for example, calls back 80% of the people they interview, I thought it went well, and I didn't get a callback. I didn't get one reach, although I chose them very carefully. I didn't get many of my targets, although I chose those even more carefully. Seriously, bidding with average grades, prepared pretty well, and I can't get Katten, Chadbourne, Kaye Scholer? Kill me now.

ETA: I get that this sounds like Harvard entitlement douchiness. But it's also true that I bid extremely carefully, prepared extremely thoroughly, interviewed in a way that I thought was good. I did a mock with OCS during the week and I also contacted a partner who rejected me to improve my interviewing. I put myself on the line 30 times, and was rejected 27. So indulge me the douchiness for a bit.
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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone heard from Gunderson, Fenwick, Cooley or Wilson Sonsini? Got MoFo on Friday, but otherwise it's been dead silent on the SF/SV front. I know they are always slow, but some of them were pretty early in the week this year.


Fenwick and Cooley have gone out.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:11 am

Starting off flyout week with a midnight Cooley Boston ding.. at this point, I am just getting a steady stream of bad news after early successes have passed.

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Re: HLS 2012 EIP Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:22 am

Anonymous User wrote:30 interviews, 3 callbacks, pretty average grades, thought I was a decent interviewer (and OCS didn't disagree). I was looking at the CB/Offer rate, and thinking that 60% or so means that I have a decent shot. Then it occurred to me that screeners to callbacks is like a 45% success rate and I batted a solid 10%. Now I'm freaking out.

Console me.


Did you just just bid D.C. or Cali? I've heard they take a while. A friend of mine had subpar grades and still has double digits CB's. While they barely bid NYC they had strong ties to the other markets they bid. If you didn't bid heavy NYC or places you have strong ties to it'll probably just take some time. Keep your head up and I agree with the above poster 3 CBs should net you at least one offer.




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