Anonymous User wrote: UncleFilz wrote: D-hops wrote:
homestyle28 wrote:I defined as follows:
Reach anything .2 or more above my GPA
Target anything within .1 +/-
saftey anything .2 or more below
A little caveat about "safety" firms: this is not law school admissions. Just because you are above a call back median or near the high end does not mean you will get a call back there and certainly does not mean that you will get an offer there. The only "numbers game" law firms play is targeting a certain size summer class and offering people that impressed them (via interview and academic performance) accounting for a certain amount of people to decline the offer. While I think OCI is a little more numbers driven, it is certainly not so much that you can use the term "safety" with respect to any firm.
So how accurate is the GPA callback info? Does it actually mean anything? Obviously for firms like S&C it indicates they don't want people with low GPAs, but for a firm that has a large GPA range does it actually mean people in the range have a chance? Or are they just going to fill from the top as much as possible as long as the people aren't complete dbags?
I'm not sure what the OP meant either, because I think it's common knowledge that having a high gpa isn't sufficient for a CB/offer at any firm (except for perhaps S&C), and that certain baseline interviewing skills are required for almost any firm.
Of course OCI isn't like math and there are no guarantees but if you are in the high GPA range of a firm and you are a decent interviewer, you should feel good about your chances going in.
There are a limited number of sources of objective info for us for bidding: GPA callback #'s, NALP class sizes, etc. I think you call firms "targets, reaches, safeties" based on that...but obviously it's not an analogous process to law school admissions. Interviewing skills/prep also figure in to things. I've been told that, as a general rule, the average offer GPA is a tick lower than average call back GPA, b/c the top firms scoop up so many of the high GPAs. To paraphrase rayiner, a person with a high GPA might get a shit-ton of callbacks (affecting the callback numbers) but can still only accept 1 offer.
I think what the GPA callback data tells you is that (presuming you're in the range of GPAs previously called back) Firm X has called back people with similar numbers in the past, so you should be in the running going into the interview.