Anonymous User wrote: Anonymous User wrote:
5ky wrote:Oh I definitely agree with that. A 3.59 with 2 offers from 20 NYC screeners is objectively poor. And while it might not be anybody's fault per se (say a combination of K-JD, just bad at interviewing in general, despite preparation, etc.), most people are going to do much better than that.
1Ls can hopefully see that from this thread itself. A 3.58 got an offer from S&C last year, and then a 3.59 did relatively poorly. There's a wide range of outcomes, but those are probably the high and the low.
I disagree with this and with jawsthegreat. Going 2 offers for 20 screeners in NYC is certainly not "objectively poor" with a 3.59. First, most people fall within the decent interviewing range. Second, there are two many other factors that impact whether or not the interview goes well. Honestly, no matter how charismatic you are, there are some interviewers that you will just not click with. Other times, you catch the interviewer at a bad time (some interviewers get incredibly grumpy after 12 interviews without lunch, and if you're that person who walks in to the grump, nothing's going to turn it around). Third, 2 offers out of 20 screeners isn't that bad. I'd imagine that the poster probably had 6-10 callbacks, which is perfectly fine. Often times, there are just some things that are outside of your control. Plus, that poster noted that their one DC screener turned into an offer and, honestly, DC firms are much harder to crack.
tl;dr version - 90% of people are average interviewers, anyone who came out of OGI with multiple big law offers is a decent interviewer (anyone who says otherwise is full of it).
Completely disagree with this. Who gives a shit if a guy is in a grumpy mood, or you don't click with someone. You have to make someone want you despite personality differences, despite having food coma, despite them being in a shitty mood. If you can't wake someone out of their food coma, then of course you won't get an offer, because you are probably as boring as watching bread become stale. You should realize quickly if personalities are different and adjust your approach mid interview. I have a friend who went into an interview, realized the guy was a huge tool, and decided he would be a huge tool also.....what happened? He got an offer.
At OGI, these people will not be in shitty moods, they get to have a day off to come to beautiful cville and hang out with students rather than being stuck in some shitty office, doing the same shit they do everyday. You have 20 minutes to impress, and you should be doing that every second of the interview. Yea, sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of the time, if you have the grades, it will work out.
No, most of the time it won't. Often times, the firms are only going to call back 10-15% of the people they screen. Sometimes less, sometimes more. Depending on the % of preselects and the quality of lottery picks, 60-80% of the people they see in screening interviews pass the threshold. Thus, sometimes, perhaps over half the time, it just won't work out.
And look, I'm not saying that people shouldn't prepare for interviews - they certainly should. People should practice, people should do mock interviews, and people should bring their upbeat versions of themselves. But, people shouldn't be fake - being fake is worse than being boring. You should be yourself - it's important to be comfortable and confident.
But, all this talk about being some sort of AutoAdmit alpha male in interviews and "crushing" all your screeners is silly. And, the suggestion that someone sucked because they only got 3 offers from OGI is utterly fucking absurd. People should have realistic expectations - otherwise, when you don't get tons of callbacks right away, people will get depressed and their next round of screeners will suffer, etc.