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Anonymous User wrote:Right, yea I was more asking if rising 3Ls had any thoughts on whether people ever get interviews at those firms.pjo wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anything ever come of the resume collections?
They were just sent to firms on Monday. I wouldn't expect to hear back this quickly.
Everybody gets rejected -- it's definitely hard, but you can't take each one personally.Anonymous User wrote:Ouch, just got rejected from a home secondary market firm I actually met an alum partner from/sent my resume and writing sample to/etc. Median grades, plenty of OGI preselects so no glaring resume errors. This one hurts. Firm does not go to OGI but they are huge in this market
A lot of secondary market firms, especially if they're a market outside of UVA's home base, will auto reject applicants who don't have latin honors, law review, or are listed as being outside the top of the class. Firms like that often don't regularly hire from top schools outside their region so they aren't really that familiar with the school and don't give it a prestige boost. The only schools that are uniformly respected (i.e in every market) to the point where their grads are always given grade leeway are HYS.Anonymous User wrote:Ouch, just got rejected from a home secondary market firm I actually met an alum partner from/sent my resume and writing sample to/etc. Median grades, plenty of OGI preselects so no glaring resume errors. This one hurts. Firm does not go to OGI but they are huge in this market
This is, to be polite, total bullshit and false.Anonymous User wrote:A lot of secondary market firms, especially if they're a market outside of UVA's home base, will auto reject applicants who don't have latin honors, law review, or are listed as being outside the top of the class. Firms like that often don't regularly hire from top schools outside their region so they aren't really that familiar with the school and don't give it a prestige boost. The only schools that are uniformly respected (i.e in every market) to the point where their grads are always given grade leeway are HYS.Anonymous User wrote:Ouch, just got rejected from a home secondary market firm I actually met an alum partner from/sent my resume and writing sample to/etc. Median grades, plenty of OGI preselects so no glaring resume errors. This one hurts. Firm does not go to OGI but they are huge in this market
This is true of only a very few secondary market firms. Most secondary market firms prefer to see top quarter or top third at UVA (assuming you have real ties) over top 10% at local schools.Anonymous User wrote:A lot of secondary market firms, especially if they're a market outside of UVA's home base, will auto reject applicants who don't have latin honors, law review, or are listed as being outside the top of the class. Firms like that often don't regularly hire from top schools outside their region so they aren't really that familiar with the school and don't give it a prestige boost. The only schools that are uniformly respected (i.e in every market) to the point where their grads are always given grade leeway are HYS.Anonymous User wrote:Ouch, just got rejected from a home secondary market firm I actually met an alum partner from/sent my resume and writing sample to/etc. Median grades, plenty of OGI preselects so no glaring resume errors. This one hurts. Firm does not go to OGI but they are huge in this market
I can see how it would be frustrating and scary, but unless you were living under a rock whilst applying, this potentiality and the resulting emotions shouldn't be surprising.Anonymous User wrote:Original Anon here. It's hard to hear that even a 3.31 at this school might not get me a job in my own home market since it's just median. The biggest schools around here all offered me full rides and I turned them down. Not saying I'd be top quarter or 10% there but at least I wouldn't have any debt. This whole process is very frustrating and scary.
Just as an fyi, this is not typical but I know someone who just got an offer with below median grades. It is all about mass mailing, working your tail off, and running around like a chicken with your head cut off. It happens, not all the time--but it does happen.alirod12 wrote:I can see how it would be frustrating and scary, but unless you were living under a rock whilst applying, this potentiality and the resulting emotions shouldn't be surprising.Anonymous User wrote:Original Anon here. It's hard to hear that even a 3.31 at this school might not get me a job in my own home market since it's just median. The biggest schools around here all offered me full rides and I turned them down. Not saying I'd be top quarter or 10% there but at least I wouldn't have any debt. This whole process is very frustrating and scary.
It's not surprising. Haven't gone through OGI yet but very unsure I would make the same decision to come here if I could choose over again, especially since I didn't really like my job this summer. It might be shocking but legal theory is much different than legal practice. Teeter-tottering between mailing out apps to more firms and planning my escape into the mountains of Switzerland, von Trapp-style. I am in a pretty uncomfortable rut right now.alirod12 wrote:I can see how it would be frustrating and scary, but unless you were living under a rock whilst applying, this potentiality and the resulting emotions shouldn't be surprising.Anonymous User wrote:Original Anon here. It's hard to hear that even a 3.31 at this school might not get me a job in my own home market since it's just median. The biggest schools around here all offered me full rides and I turned them down. Not saying I'd be top quarter or 10% there but at least I wouldn't have any debt. This whole process is very frustrating and scary.
Was your summer with a firm or public interest? There's a huge variety of legal careers out there. Consider it a good thing if you didn't enjoy your 1L summer - you're now in a much better position to shape your next two years and find something you'll enjoy.Anonymous User wrote: It's not surprising. Haven't gone through OGI yet but very unsure I would make the same decision to come here if I could choose over again, especially since I didn't really like my job this summer. It might be shocking but legal theory is much different than legal practice. Teeter-tottering between mailing out apps to more firms and planning my escape into the mountains of Switzerland, von Trapp-style. I am in a pretty uncomfortable rut right now.
judgealbanach wrote:Was your summer with a firm or public interest? There's a huge variety of legal careers out there. Consider it a good thing if you didn't enjoy your 1L summer - you're now in a much better position to shape your next two years and find something you'll enjoy.Anonymous User wrote: It's not surprising. Haven't gone through OGI yet but very unsure I would make the same decision to come here if I could choose over again, especially since I didn't really like my job this summer. It might be shocking but legal theory is much different than legal practice. Teeter-tottering between mailing out apps to more firms and planning my escape into the mountains of Switzerland, von Trapp-style. I am in a pretty uncomfortable rut right now.
Interesting. I'm curious as to whether there was anything in particular you disliked? I guess by definition, working for a judge would mean little to no client contact. I can say one of the best things of my 1L summer has been the constant client contact.Anonymous User wrote:judgealbanach wrote: Was your summer with a firm or public interest? There's a huge variety of legal careers out there. Consider it a good thing if you didn't enjoy your 1L summer - you're now in a much better position to shape your next two years and find something you'll enjoy.
No.Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from any resume collection firms?
Do you have a choice? If you already have an offer, then maybe you want to choose 4-5 and skip 1 firm that you might not be interested. (Skip = get permission from KDon first)Anonymous User wrote:Six interviews on the first day. Absolutely doable or total hell?
- Don Draper
6 is pushing it, but it's not too bad. I think I had 8 and that was tiring but possible. If 6 ends up being the highest number you have in one day, I'd call it good luck.Anonymous User wrote:Six interviews on the first day. Absolutely doable or total hell?
- Don Draper
Chocolate cake, vanilla cake, or awesome cake?thesealocust wrote:6 in one day is cake. A lot of other schools do all of OCI in 2-3 days, meaning many people have that many or more, per day, back to back.