UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

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UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby PriOSky » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:45 pm

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby azntwice » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:05 pm

go for it, it can only help you, especially since all the 1Ls are undifferentiable. i put it on for my 2L interviews and many interviewers were impressed.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby 2012JayDee » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:07 pm

If your resume is other wise short of relevant work experience, and all you really have is your undergrad stuff, there's nothing wrong with listing your UG GPA. Obviously, your law school GPA is much more important. But if you had a really high GPA it's not completely wrong to list that. Or, instead of listing the GPA you can just list your school, major and "summa cum laude" or "with honors" whatever the case may be.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby fatduck » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:07 pm

only leave your UGPA off your resume if it's abysmal

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby Ludo! » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:08 pm

why would it be douchey to put your gpa on your resume? putting your high gpa on your facebook is douchey, putting it on your resume is common sense

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby bdubs » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:10 pm

You can do either honors, just list the GPA, or both. Most firms will ask for a transcript anyway, so listing the summa distinction should probably get you past the sniff test anyway (unless your resume is too weak to warrant consideration).

Ludovico Technique wrote:why would it be douchey to put your gpa on your resume? putting your high gpa on your facebook is douchey, putting it on your resume is common sense


IMO the more other stuff that is on your resume, the more ridiculous it looks to have UGPA on there. If you've been out of school for 10 years and law is your second career, listing your UGPA looks silly. However, if you're <2 years out of school I think listing the GPA is fine.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby rad lulz » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:15 pm

fatduck wrote:only leave your UGPA off your resume if it's abysmal

Also, if you're not pretty far out of school, and you leave it off, they will assume abysmal.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:16 pm

It probably doesn't matter, but I would only put the honors distinction.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby portaprokoss » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:26 pm

Only put a good UG GPA on if your LS GPA is impressive as well. Otherwise leave both GPAs off. If you have an awesome UG GPA, but leave off your LS GPA, it will look silly. This is what career services told me.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby PriOSky » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:41 pm

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby rad lulz » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:43 pm

PriOSky wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:why would it be douchey to put your gpa on your resume? putting your high gpa on your facebook is douchey, putting it on your resume is common sense


LSAT should never be on the resume for recruiting, even for 1L SA positions, right?

Hell no.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby Ludo! » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:44 pm

Yeah never put your LSAT.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby fatduck » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:47 pm

definitely mention your three 180's in a bullet point under your undergrad

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby duckmoney » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:48 pm

My biggest worry is that it begs the question of "Why did you not put your law school GPA?" If you don't put your LS GPA on there (for instance, your school doesn't let you calculate it or you have a funny grading system, or both), I wouldn't put undergrad GPA. Honors designations should get the point across.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby rad lulz » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:49 pm

fatduck wrote:definitely mention your three 180's in a bullet point under your undergrad

Just make it up if you don't have any. Worked for Dave Hall.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby r6_philly » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:03 am

portaprokoss wrote:Only put a good UG GPA on if your LS GPA is impressive as well. Otherwise leave both GPAs off. If you have an awesome UG GPA, but leave off your LS GPA, it will look silly. This is what career services told me.


Wrong, my UG GPA is a lot better than my law GPA. Your advice is basically asking most anyone with a 3.9+ UG GPA to not list it.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby shoeshine » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:05 am

Only put it on if it is 3.9 or above

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:15 am

I could have sworn I've read on TLS that your 1L grades are all that matter (as far as academic credentials go in interviewing). I'm assuming this advice is only for applying without full 1L grades and wouldn't apply post 1L (e.g. OCI).

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby r6_philly » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:21 am

MrPapagiorgio wrote:I could have sworn I've read on TLS that your 1L grades are all that matter (as far as academic credentials go in interviewing). I'm assuming this advice is only for applying without full 1L grades and wouldn't apply post 1L (e.g. OCI).


I am keeping mine on there, but I guess patent people have different rules and expectations.

ETA, my career services don't really suggest putting it on, but I did anyway, and worked out beautifully.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby sarcasticswede » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:50 pm

They aren't going to care about your UG GPA, they'll only care about your 1L first semester grades, and if it's a firm that's interviewing you before that, they care about your work experience. I landed a 1L SA, and no one asked me in a single interview about UG (other than about my minor in Chinese Language which is a little odd since I'm Swedish). And yes, straight out of UG.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:14 pm

sarcasticswede wrote:They aren't going to care about your UG GPA, they'll only care about your 1L first semester grades, and if it's a firm that's interviewing you before that, they care about your work experience. I landed a 1L SA, and no one asked me in a single interview about UG (other than about my minor in Chinese Language which is a little odd since I'm Swedish). And yes, straight out of UG.


They were not very interested about my 1L grades.

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby fatduck » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:39 pm

r6_philly wrote:
sarcasticswede wrote:They aren't going to care about your UG GPA, they'll only care about your 1L first semester grades, and if it's a firm that's interviewing you before that, they care about your work experience. I landed a 1L SA, and no one asked me in a single interview about UG (other than about my minor in Chinese Language which is a little odd since I'm Swedish). And yes, straight out of UG.


They were not very interested about my 1L grades.

probably because your transcript looks like this

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:01 pm

Is that good or bad? I rather like that transcript other than the C-

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby Flips88 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:06 pm

I plan to keep my UGPA on my resume for OCI (1) because it looks good and (2) we aren't allowed to list our law school GPA on our initial resumes for OCI (something about wanting employers to have a untainted impression of you when you walk in the interview).

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Re: UG GPA on resume for 1L SA, douche or beneficial?

Postby r6_philly » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:17 pm

Flips88 wrote:I plan to keep my UGPA on my resume for OCI (1) because it looks good and (2) we aren't allowed to list our law school GPA on our initial resumes for OCI (something about wanting employers to have a untainted impression of you when you walk in the interview).


If they really believed in that lie they would use a lottery system.




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