Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby chrisbru » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:38 am

Gecko of Doom wrote:
Jessuf wrote:Snail mail rejection from Dykema DC even though I contacted them through e-mail.


So due to journal training + transfer orientation, I won't be available for non-DC callbacks until Tuesday, August 28. Is this really late? Am I screwed? I only have 4 DC interviews so far through mass mailing. All OCI screeners are NYC, and pushing NYC callbacks (if i get any..) back to end of Aug/beginning of Sept worries me if all of the NYC spots will get snatched up fast.

I don't think you'll be too late. I just scheduled a callback with a firm (admittedly non-NYC, but a pretty big market), and they said they don't even start hosting callbacks until August 29.


I think a lot of secondary markets wait until the NYC/Chicago/DC callbacks happen, at least the way things have been looking around the Midwest.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby ilovesf » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:30 am

Depends. I guess it's different but in SF call backs are already going on this week (and it's still OCI week, too).

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Gecko of Doom » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:07 am

Didn't mean to imply that that was the norm. Just saying I don't think being unavailable until then means you're too late to get an offer.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:40 am

Ugh I'm getting destroyed with my schools OCI, 100% preselect and I got zero the first round... Top 20% mid tier 1. I've already mailed out around 120 firms, but I'm going to try to get to over 200 this weekend.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby ShitLawOrBust » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ugh I'm getting destroyed with my schools OCI, 100% preselect and I got zero the first round... Top 20% mid tier 1. I've already mailed out around 120 firms, but I'm going to try to get to over 200 this weekend.

good lord, that's rough

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby dreakol » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:21 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:I've mailed about 20 large firms in Florida. A couple dings, but I don't expect anything with my resume.

What is the time frame for midsize firms? I feel like I'll have a lot more success with those.


a lot of the mid sized firms i've mass mailed already have told me to talk to them again come September. This is also when most of the mid size firms that do oci at my school are coming to campus so i'm probably going to spam like crazy the 25-100ish size firms come the first of the month.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:59 pm

chrisbru wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have success in San Diego? It's my home market and ideally I would love to practice down there but there are only a few "BigLaw" firms from my understanding, plenty of 2-10 attorney boutique firms and a metric fuckton of solo practitioners. Should I waste my time with the boutique firms and inquire about a Summer Associate position or just target the small amount of big firms and hope for the best? 8)


I was one of two summers at a 7 lawyer firm this summer - not in San Diego, but I guess I'm trying to say it doesn't hurt to ask. Play up any connections you have.


Thanks, for the advice. I'm gonna start mass mailing to these types of firms at the beginning of September and see what happens. Out of curiosity, did they still pay you a pro-rated salary like BigLaw, or just hourly? Are you still waiting to hear back if they extended you an offer?

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby chrisbru » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:32 pm

I've mailed all the big firms that I have any shot at - next week I'll be starting mid-size Chicago and Minneapolis firms and small Des Moines firms. Wish me luck - I don't have faith in OCI turning anything up for me.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:40 pm

6 dings in one day, and this is weeks since I mailed them. Also dinged at the one hometown screener I went on. This is just ugly.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby lawschoofoo » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:32 pm

2 dings today from Chicago. However, did get interview with mid-size firm in medium size market on the West Coast.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:34 pm

chrisbru wrote:I've mailed all the big firms that I have any shot at - next week I'll be starting mid-size Chicago and Minneapolis firms and small Des Moines firms. Wish me luck - I don't have faith in OCI turning anything up for me.


Good luck in with anyone in Chicago. It's insane. Minneapolis actually doesn't look bad this year - wish you the best.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:37 pm

IUB top 25%. Didn't get any interviews at OCI. Want Indy for final market...

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:6 8 dings in one day, and this is weeks since I mailed them. Also dinged at the one hometown screener I went on. This is just ugly.


Same anon. I guess firms just wanted to get rid of the trash pre-OCI

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:47 pm

So I'm finishing up my school's market mass mailing this weekend and already did my home market. I have no real ties to any other market. I have about ~20 screeners thru OCI here, had a few interviews in my home market. I'm #5 at a lower T1. Is it even worth mass mailing NYC for me without any ties whatsoever or any other market I should mail?

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby dreakol » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So I'm finishing up my school's market mass mailing this weekend and already did my home market. I have no real ties to any other market. I have about ~20 screeners thru OCI here, had a few interviews in my home market. I'm #5 at a lower T1. Is it even worth mass mailing NYC for me without any ties whatsoever or any other market I should mail?


from what i've heard, nyc doesn't care about ties and try your undergrad market if it is different from your law school's market/home market

also, ties can be stretched

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby crossarmant » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:11 am

Yay, more NYC dings trickling in today. This is lovely.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby ShitLawOrBust » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:So I'm finishing up my school's market mass mailing this weekend and already did my home market. I have no real ties to any other market. I have about ~20 screeners thru OCI here, had a few interviews in my home market. I'm #5 at a lower T1. Is it even worth mass mailing NYC for me without any ties whatsoever or any other market I should mail?


Do it. I've received 2 NY interviews this week and I have no ties. #2 at a lower T1

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:22 pm

So to follow-up on that, what do I put where I would normally put where my "why this market" sentence in my cover letter is? Is it best to just not mention anything?

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby chitown2626 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So to follow-up on that, what do I put where I would normally put where my "why this market" sentence in my cover letter is? Is it best to just not mention anything?


i've still mentioned at least a sentence, something generic like "I am interested in your NY office because as someone wanting to do transactional work, I recognize that New York is the major hub for this type of work"

however, ive only hear crickets so far so maybe im doing it wrong.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Gotti » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:56 am

Tagging. I'm a little late but I'm hoping to send out a shit ton more of mass mails to NYC. Nervous.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby dreakol » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:08 pm

mass mailed mid/big firms in LA, SF, Pittsburgh, Philly, Chicago, and NYC. some rejections/ask us later but mostly silence. :/

time to stretch my ties even further and hit up random markets.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Dr. Review » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:40 pm

dreakol wrote:mass mailed mid/big firms in LA, SF, Pittsburgh, Philly, Chicago, and NYC. some rejections/ask us later but mostly silence. :/

time to stretch my ties even further and hit up random markets.

It's a shade early for mid firms in Pittsburgh. Big firms won't do Pgh OCI for another few weeks also, so don't get discouraged.

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby JenDarby » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:06 pm

Gotti wrote:Tagging. I'm a little late but I'm hoping to send out a shit ton more of mass mails to NYC. Nervous.

I'm right there with you. Are you hitting CA too?

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:14 pm

Is it too late to send out mass mails to markets I have very marginal ties to but just want to live in? (particularly in the Mountain West)

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Re: Summer 2013 Non-OCI Job Hunt (Mass Mail, Job Fairs, etc)

Postby JenDarby » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is it too late to send out mass mails to markets I have very marginal ties to but just want to live in? (particularly in the Mountain West)

It's definitely not too late, but getting moving on it ASAP. The only thing you have to lose is not getting interviews. You have a 100% chance of not getting them if you don't try.




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