2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby JusticeJackson » Wed May 23, 2012 11:19 pm

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 23, 2012 11:29 pm

Look for a non-profit law firm. At my job they have a lot of interns and they just recently hired some full time. Yeah its shitty but you have a chance to do class action against apartments and shit like that. Might make a name for yourself?

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu May 24, 2012 1:01 pm

JusticeJackson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am mostly concerned with the low GPA since there really isn't any other law schools in my area.


I don't get how these are related. How would the absence of another law school in the area make your situation any worse than it would be if there was another school in your area?


supply and demand. More competition. More people applying for the same spot.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby newyorker88 » Thu May 24, 2012 1:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
JusticeJackson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am mostly concerned with the low GPA since there really isn't any other law schools in my area.


I don't get how these are related. How would the absence of another law school in the area make your situation any worse than it would be if there was another school in your area?


supply and demand. More competition. More people applying for the same spot.


That explanation doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't the absence of another law school in the area mean less competition?

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby togepi » Thu May 24, 2012 1:13 pm

This is good news.

After law school, I can call myself Dr. Mayo and open my own law firm called "The Mayo Clinic LLC"

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby XxSpyKEx » Thu May 24, 2012 2:14 pm

Isn't a 2.15 around top 15% with the typical t4 grade curve? :lol:

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby JusticeJackson » Thu May 24, 2012 2:34 pm

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby mrman17 » Thu May 24, 2012 6:01 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Reprisal wrote:
mrman17 wrote:The problem is that law is not an industry that heavily encourages self-promotion


lmao



Hahaha. Especially bad considering he posted this on TLS.


Alright 0L's, someday when you take Professional Responsibility you might know what I'm talking about. For now, you don't know jack shit.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby lisjjen » Thu May 24, 2012 6:08 pm

top30man wrote:A 3L with a 2.X gpa at a TTTT that is just now starting the job search? This is hard to believe.


but is it really

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Nova » Thu May 24, 2012 6:45 pm

lisjjen wrote:
top30man wrote:A 3L with a 2.X gpa at a TTTT that is just now starting the job search? This is hard to believe.


but is it really


No, not really.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Total Litigator » Thu May 24, 2012 7:06 pm

kapachino wrote:Two of my favorite profs at my undergrad were JDs who went by "Dr." when they taught. One was an HLS grad who decided to teach poli sci, and the other was general counsel for the university.


I will bet good money that they had PhD's.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri May 25, 2012 12:52 pm

newyorker88 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
JusticeJackson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am mostly concerned with the low GPA since there really isn't any other law schools in my area.


I don't get how these are related. How would the absence of another law school in the area make your situation any worse than it would be if there was another school in your area?


supply and demand. More competition. More people applying for the same spot.


That explanation doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't the absence of another law school in the area mean less competition?

fine, you know what I mean (less competition from less students in area)

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby JusticeJackson » Fri May 25, 2012 1:53 pm

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby shredderrrrrr » Fri May 25, 2012 2:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
JusticeJackson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am mostly concerned with the low GPA since there really isn't any other law schools in my area.


I don't get how these are related. How would the absence of another law school in the area make your situation any worse than it would be if there was another school in your area?


supply and demand. More competition. More people applying for the same spot.


Well this explains why OP has a 2.15 from a T4...

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby MrAnon » Fri May 25, 2012 2:37 pm

rad lulz wrote:
mrman17 wrote:There are government entities and many businesses that would love to hire someone who could grind it out to earn a doctorate degree in law school.


Not all doctorate degrees are created equally

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby mrman17 » Fri May 25, 2012 4:47 pm

MrAnon wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
mrman17 wrote:There are government entities and many businesses that would love to hire someone who could grind it out to earn a doctorate degree in law school.


Not all doctorate degrees are created equally


Be that as it may, a law degree is a doctorate and not very many people hold doctorate degrees. It is a professional doctorate comporable to a M.D. or D.D.S. Having a law degree still puts you in the top 1% of the world's most educated people and will set you apart from other job applicants.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby cantaboot » Fri May 25, 2012 6:22 pm

^ your way of thinking makes me feel ashamed of being a JD holder. the same feeling that occurred to me when some guy updated his facebook status the day he graduated, "xxxx high school; xxxxx university; xxxxx law school"

the same guy then failed the bar (reputed to be one of the easiest in the country) twice.
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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby cantaboot » Fri May 25, 2012 6:32 pm

shredderrrrrr wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
JusticeJackson wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am mostly concerned with the low GPA since there really isn't any other law schools in my area.


I don't get how these are related. How would the absence of another law school in the area make your situation any worse than it would be if there was another school in your area?


supply and demand. More competition. More people applying for the same spot.


Well this explains why OP has a 2.15 from a T4...


OP's rationale reminds me of the only T4 grad - and one of the most annoying people - I've ever dealt with in my life.
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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby mrman17 » Fri May 25, 2012 7:34 pm

cantaboot wrote:^ your way of thinking makes me feel ashamed of being a JD holder. the same feeling that occurred to me when some guy updated his facebook profile the day he graduated, "xxxx high school; xxxxx university; xxxxx law school"

the same guy then failed the bar (reputed to be one of the easiest in the country) twice.


I also have a JD. A JD is not the end all and be all of degrees, but it is still a marketable asset and a respected accomplishment (even if there are no jobs in the legal industry). If we don't take our degrees seriously, then potential employers shouldn't either.

Forgetting the complete time waste that Facebook is, what is wrong with updating your education with validly received degrees? Is it also wrong to update LinkedIn? Or your resume? Also, the bar is totally external to the JD degree itself.

You can go ahead and be a downer if you want. . .it's your life. Anyway, why do you even give a shit whether others proudly acknowledge their degree?

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby cantaboot » Fri May 25, 2012 7:43 pm

I am not saying one shouldn't be proud of one's accomplishments, regardless of what they are. I knitted a scarf for my SO, and I am damn proud of it, as insignificant as it might seem to many people.

taking pride in something is not equivalent to bragging about it. taking one's accomplishments seriously is not the same as having an inflated sense of self-worth or an unrealistic expectation of how other people will regard your accomplishments.

PS what I found douchey is not adding one's JD to the profile page, or updating linkedin or other professional profiles. It's updating the FB status. It's shouting to people who may or may not have it. how douchey?! do we need to brag about which high school we went to by the time we have finished our JD? what about kindergarten?

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby RedBirds2011 » Fri May 25, 2012 7:51 pm

cantaboot wrote:I am not saying one shouldn't be proud of one's accomplishments, regardless of what they are. I knitted a scarf for my SO, and I am damn proud of it, as insignificant as it might seem to many people.

taking pride in something is not equivalent to bragging about it. taking one's accomplishments seriously is not the same as having an inflated sense of self-worth or an unrealistic expectation of how other people will regard your accomplishments.

PS what I found douchey is not adding one's JD to the profile page, or updating linkedin or other professional profiles. It's updating the FB status. It's shouting to people who may or may not have it. how douchey?! do we need to brag about which high school we went to by the time we have finished our JD? what about kindergarten?



I knew of someone that changed their middle name on Facebook to "future lawyer" once.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri May 25, 2012 7:53 pm

Updateing Facebook to say you graduated from gradschool is not worth mentioning on an update? Compared to that, pretty much everything is trivial. Seeing how the average update is if they got the job at BK or if the fat chick gave them VD or if they the babydaddy, yeah there you go.....

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby cantaboot » Fri May 25, 2012 7:54 pm

the guy i was talking about - he updated his FB status regularly: always high school, college, law school.

It is not like "I just graduated today ... so happy."

He's on linkedin for a while - linkedin suggested him to me as someone I might know.
He stated 'attorney' and put a fictitious law firm next to it, calling it "his last name & his family friend's last name" - and his friend is not a lawyer.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby RVP11 » Sat May 26, 2012 1:02 pm

JusticeJackson wrote:If T4 = top 4 law school, apply to smaller markets. Especially ones you have ties to. If you grew up in Omaha, I'm sure every Omaha firm would be stoked to have a Columbia grad, even if they have terrible grades.


LOL no. At any T14, a 2.15 would be an epic low GPA - so low, in fact, that they probably wouldn't let you graduate, and you would have the lowest ever GPA if you did graduate.

And secondary and tertiary market firms are generally pickier on grades than generic lower V50/V100 firms in New York.

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Re: 2.15 GPA from a T4-screwed?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat May 26, 2012 8:55 pm

RVP11 wrote:
JusticeJackson wrote:If T4 = top 4 law school, apply to smaller markets. Especially ones you have ties to. If you grew up in Omaha, I'm sure every Omaha firm would be stoked to have a Columbia grad, even if they have terrible grades.


LOL no. At any T14, a 2.15 would be an epic low GPA - so low, in fact, that they probably wouldn't let you graduate, and you would have the lowest ever GPA if you did graduate.

And secondary and tertiary market firms are generally pickier on grades than generic lower V50/V100 firms in New York.

2.0 to graduate. All it takes. Not all schools artificially raised grades retroactively a few terms back just for fun.




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