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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Emma. » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:45 pm

SA in the bag (apart from day drinking tomorrow). We don't get offers til next week, but my final review was all positive & partner told me he wishes I was graduating tomorrow, so not at all worried.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby rad lulz » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:50 pm

Received missed calls when I was out of the office. Those things always make me nervous.

Offers from both my firms won't go out until mid August, so I'll have to wait. Ugh.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:14 pm

So here is what I was told today:

(1) Every feedback has been positive
(2) People like me very much
(3) I have done the best job an SA could have done
(4) Since the hiring committee will not meet until early Sept, you should still do 3L OCI at your T10 school. (I was assured that every SA was told so.)

From a V firm with 700+ lawyers.

I don't like it.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:25 pm

Was told early on by my V20 firm that it is almost certain that we will know if we have an offer by the time we walk out the door on the last day. The past few years, I believe they broke the news all at once at a big summer farewell dinner by bringing out the champagne and making an announcement on the spot. 100% offer rate for the past 4 or 5 years, at least in my office. My work efficiency has slowed down a bit in the 2nd half of the summer and I made a few beginners mistakes, but I'm certainly hoping the 100% trend continues.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:30 pm

6 days left at my small firm (~20 people). not really a formal summer program so I haven't had any formal reviews, but informal feedback has been good all summer. no clue if/when they're planning on offering. don't know what their past summer hiring patterns have been either :?

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby romothesavior » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So here is what I was told today:

(1) Every feedback has been positive
(2) People like me very much
(3) I have done the best job an SA could have done
(4) Since the hiring committee will not meet until early Sept, you should still do 3L OCI at your T10 school. (I was assured that every SA was told so.)

From a V firm with 700+ lawyers.

I don't like it.

Shit that is rough and also kinda ridiculous.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby somewhatwayward » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So here is what I was told today:

(1) Every feedback has been positive
(2) People like me very much
(3) I have done the best job an SA could have done
(4) Since the hiring committee will not meet until early Sept, you should still do 3L OCI at your T10 school. (I was assured that every SA was told so.)

From a V firm with 700+ lawyers.

I don't like it.


wow that sucks....will you out the firm?

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:35 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So here is what I was told today:

(1) Every feedback has been positive
(2) People like me very much
(3) I have done the best job an SA could have done
(4) Since the hiring committee will not meet until early Sept, you should still do 3L OCI at your T10 school. (I was assured that every SA was told so.)

From a V firm with 700+ lawyers.

I don't like it.


wow that sucks....will you out the firm?


No, because I actually like the people and may still work there. The firm's hiring timeline is really problematic though.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:01 am

Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby romothesavior » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:13 am

Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Agreed. A 700+ person firm who can't tell their summers until September? I'd be getting on the OCI/mass mail train ASAP

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:48 am

romothesavior wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Agreed. A 700+ person firm who can't tell their summers until September? I'd be getting on the OCI/mass mail train ASAP


Mine won't be making offers till October.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:50 am

Wow, that sound pretty negative (not about your chances, but about the firm in general). EDIT - this comment is directed to the guy who said that his firm recommended that he still go through with 3L OCI

This is my last week at my SA and my mentor partner took me to lunch today. He said that the firm is "very good" at offering SAs, and that he thinks that I have a "very good" likelihood of an offer. Problem is, this is the same guy who asked me not just how the current market is for upcoming graduates when I first started, but was shocked when I said that it was brutal. This economy + vague answers from someone that didn't realize that the hiring market is shit results in me now being incredibly nervous. On top of that, I've heard from other people that I won't find out about an offer for at least a month. As this thread is directed to anxiety, I thought it would be safe to vent...

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Emma. » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:55 am

Anonymous User wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Agreed. A 700+ person firm who can't tell their summers until September? I'd be getting on the OCI/mass mail train ASAP


Mine won't be making offers till October.


WTF???

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:00 am

Anonymous User wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Agreed. A 700+ person firm who can't tell their summers until September? I'd be getting on the OCI/mass mail train ASAP


Mine won't be making offers till October.


Sounds they want to ditch as many summers as possible without no offering. It's better than just no offering I guess.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:05 am

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Agreed. A 700+ person firm who can't tell their summers until September? I'd be getting on the OCI/mass mail train ASAP


Mine won't be making offers till October.


Sounds they want to ditch as many summers as possible without no offering. It's better than just no offering I guess.


Apparently, they've always made offer decisions in October. I have no idea why that would be the case but ours is not to reason why.... Still nervous as fuq.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:53 am

ok the anxiety level is rising. this thread is delivering.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:23 am

If a firm said at the midsummer reviews that they really like your work and if you keep it up, you'll easily get an offer, but that they don't make offers until mid-September, so you should do your school OCI just to protect yourself and to let them know if you get other offers, was that a cold-offer?

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:19 am

Offers are going out at my V5 firm on a rolling basis.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby IAFG » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:53 am

Desert Fox wrote:Sounds like that firm is sinking. I wouldn't take an offer unless you have no other choice.

Or maybe they just remember having to no-offer summers in the past and want their summers now to have an exit plan if something happens in the next 2 months.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:If a firm said at the midsummer reviews that they really like your work and if you keep it up, you'll easily get an offer, but that they don't make offers until mid-September, so you should do your school OCI just to protect yourself and to let them know if you get other offers, was that a cold-offer?


That's not a cold offer. But that might be a "we over hired summers and don't want to fuck any of them over, but if several take offers elsewhere, everyone will be better off."

Or they might just be slow, and want to know about other offers so that they can give you one if the other firm is waiting.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:23 pm

Interested to know how a "cold offer" is made. Any insight?

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby letsdoit » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Interested to know how a "cold offer" is made. Any insight?


also interested in this.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Interested to know how a "cold offer" is made. Any insight?


It only happens at firms that always keep 100% and where the person can actually find a different job. So I wouldn't worry if you aren't V10 SA.

ITE people just accept cold offers at average firms.

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:49 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interested to know how a "cold offer" is made. Any insight?


It only happens at firms that always keep 100% and where the person can actually find a different job. So I wouldn't worry if you aren't V10 SA.

ITE people just accept cold offers at average firms.


Is this correct?

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Re: ITT: Summer Associates Post About Their Anxiety (2012)

Postby mark2012 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:22 pm

Have you considered online networking events for lawyers? Like SPAMMY SPAM? You can speak face-to-face with other lawyers (of course not at your current law firm) and get some insights on what to do and not to do.




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