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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:13 am

Seriously, any answers to this one?

Goodwin has given out their CBs already? Poor me....

Anonymous User wrote:What city for the goodwin cb?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby soccerfreak » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:One firm said they send out callback offers only after they complete all ocis and have met all candidates.

One firm said it was annoying when students were made overly vague comments.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:27 am

Anonymous User wrote:Seriously, any answers to this one?

Goodwin has given out their CBs already? Poor me....

Anonymous User wrote:What city for the goodwin cb?


I think it was Boston.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby clintone88 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:41 am

I saw one guy studying the MPEP in the lobby this weekend, it was awesome. I imagine his answer to every question was "you must use red ink for an examiner's amendment."

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Dr. Review » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What do you look for in the short 20 minutes you have in a screener? Just making sure they aren't an axe murderer?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby fatduck » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:36 am

Bedsole wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What do you look for in the short 20 minutes you have in a screener? Just making sure they aren't an axe murderer?

follow-up: did you recognize any tlsers amongst your interviewees?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:56 am

Anyone know anything about callback to offer ratio about Brinks? Anyone know of anyone who went in for a callback last year?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:49 pm

Cooley has started callbacks!

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:02 pm

Bedsole wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What do you look for in the short 20 minutes you have in a screener? Just making sure they aren't an axe murderer?

Plus One.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What were the worst questions that people asked you?

Also, did you find the pros/lit topic came up too often?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby soccerfreak » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Cooley has started callbacks!

On a Saturday?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:41 pm

soccerfreak wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Cooley has started callbacks!

On a Saturday?

Yup, got the call this morning.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:35 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What were the worst questions that people asked you?

Also, did you find the pros/lit topic came up too often?


The worst questions had to do with publicly available information (e.g., practice group size, regional office focus, how long the firm's been around, class size, offer rate, types of patents being litigated). I am sympathetic to this tick, given that an interview room is a nervous environment. But that is the answer to your first question. Some people brought up interesting topics like the ITC, Alice Corp/Bancorp, the Pilot Program, the joinder provision, the AIA, etc. But they had very uninteresting answers to follow-up questions. But, I guess, it was at least impressive that they had some surface awareness of things like that. Not to me, though. To me, don't bring something up if you can't have a 30-second conversation about it.

As to your second, some people hedged just to get a job. In other words, they'd say they're interested in both. But I could easily tell that's a lie. We were actually looking for pure litigators, but hadn't advertised in that way. So the hedgers actually looked bad for us. Maybe we should have advertised it better. One or two people with bar numbers actually outright said they had zero interest in prosecution. We liked that. But this is unique to us because of our hiring needs right now. Maybe hedging is a decent net strategy.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:42 pm

fatduck wrote:
Bedsole wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What do you look for in the short 20 minutes you have in a screener? Just making sure they aren't an axe murderer?

follow-up: did you recognize any tlsers amongst your interviewees?

Yes

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby fatduck » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
fatduck wrote:
Bedsole wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What do you look for in the short 20 minutes you have in a screener? Just making sure they aren't an axe murderer?

follow-up: did you recognize any tlsers amongst your interviewees?

Yes

does my posting history increase or decrease my chances for a callback? ps, I really do have zero interest in prosecution

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

What were the worst questions that people asked you?

Also, did you find the pros/lit topic came up too often?


The worst questions had to do with publicly available information (e.g., practice group size, regional office focus, how long the firm's been around, class size, offer rate, types of patents being litigated). I am sympathetic to this tick, given that an interview room is a nervous environment. But that is the answer to your first question. Some people brought up interesting topics like the ITC, Alice Corp/Bancorp, the Pilot Program, the joinder provision, the AIA, etc. But they had very uninteresting answers to follow-up questions. But, I guess, it was at least impressive that they had some surface awareness of things like that. Not to me, though. To me, don't bring something up if you can't have a 30-second conversation about it.

As to your second, some people hedged just to get a job. In other words, they'd say they're interested in both. But I could easily tell that's a lie. We were actually looking for pure litigators, but hadn't advertised in that way. So the hedgers actually looked bad for us. Maybe we should have advertised it better. One or two people with bar numbers actually outright said they had zero interest in prosecution. We liked that. But this is unique to us because of our hiring needs right now. Maybe hedging is a decent net strategy.

The only interviewer I explicitly told I preferred lit, at an office that does ONLY lit, seemed very disappointed that I expressed a preference. I was very surprised.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby r6_philly » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Yes


Me? :mrgreen:

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby clintone88 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:49 am

Got my first CB from the interview that I thought, and told everyone, went the worst. So hopefully that is a good indicator for the rest of the CBs, or maybe I'm just a horrible judge of what is and isn't a good interview.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:18 pm

Mind sharing with us which firm is this??

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:51 pm

It would also help if class year, school range, degree, and approximate rank were listed. As a 3L, I am mostly interested in knowing if the people hearing back so far are 2Ls or 3Ls.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:As a 3L, I am mostly interested in knowing if the people hearing back so far are 2Ls or 3Ls.


+1

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby target » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:16 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Yes


Me? :mrgreen:


I think I know who you are from the kerne reception

Anonymous User wrote:As a 3L, I am mostly interested in knowing if the people hearing back so far are 2Ls or 3Ls.


+2, although I am a 2L :D

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm

Do interviewers know which other firms students are interviewing with?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I was one of the interviewers at the fair. Taking qs. GP firm


Thoughts on when to schedule call backs? I would think immediately, but then I don't want to be too soon and then they hold my reviews and forget about me after bringing in people three or four weeks later through school OCI.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby r6_philly » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:09 pm

target wrote:
I think I know who you are from the kerne reception


And you didn't say hi? I'm offended!




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