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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:17 am

How important is my undergrad transcript? One of my PS firms asks for it, but while I had a cumulative UG GPA that lined up with my law school's median, my gpa in my major was <3.0. If my interview goes well and my writing sample is good, do I need to worry about my UG transcript screwing me?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:How important is my undergrad transcript? One of my PS firms asks for it, but while I had a cumulative UG GPA that lined up with my law school's median, my gpa in my major was <3.0. If my interview goes well and my writing sample is good, do I need to worry about my UG transcript screwing me?


you might get away with it at some firms. But others definitely look close. And having a bunch of c's in your engineering courses will kill you.

I only got a call back at one firm who saw my sub 3 ugpa. And they dinged me after the cb. Strangely they ps'd me this year.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:06 am

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Anonymous User wrote:How important is my undergrad transcript? One of my PS firms asks for it, but while I had a cumulative UG GPA that lined up with my law school's median, my gpa in my major was <3.0. If my interview goes well and my writing sample is good, do I need to worry about my UG transcript screwing me?


you might get away with it at some firms. But others definitely look close. And having a bunch of c's in your engineering courses will kill you.

I only got a call back at one firm who saw my sub 3 ugpa. And they dinged me after the cb. Strangely they ps'd me this year.


Now I'm worried I won't have any shot at a CB :(

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:49 am

Anybody know whether Perkins Cole is interviewing just for Phoenix, for Phoenix and Seattle, or all their offices? Their description on Symplicity is unclear.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:27 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anybody know whether Perkins Cole is interviewing just for Phoenix, for Phoenix and Seattle, or all their offices? Their description on Symplicity is unclear.

yea, never mind.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:How important is my undergrad transcript? One of my PS firms asks for it, but while I had a cumulative UG GPA that lined up with my law school's median, my gpa in my major was <3.0. If my interview goes well and my writing sample is good, do I need to worry about my UG transcript screwing me?


you might get away with it at some firms. But others definitely look close. And having a bunch of c's in your engineering courses will kill you.

I only got a call back at one firm who saw my sub 3 ugpa. And they dinged me after the cb. Strangely they ps'd me this year.


Now I'm worried I won't have any shot at a CB :(


if they are a firm that values tech skills, you probably don't.

However, some firms say to bring it, but never ask for it. So have one available but don't hand it over unless they ask.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:04 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Now I'm worried I won't have any shot at a CB :(

if they are a firm that values tech skills, you probably don't.

However, some firms say to bring it, but never ask for it. So have one available but don't hand it over unless they ask.


Short of risking outing myself by naming the firm, any way I can find out if this is an area of high importance for them?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:18 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Now I'm worried I won't have any shot at a CB :(

if they are a firm that values tech skills, you probably don't.

However, some firms say to bring it, but never ask for it. So have one available but don't hand it over unless they ask.


Short of risking outing myself by naming the firm, any way I can find out if this is an area of high importance for them?

Patent pros will care more, litigation probably less.

Also, I doubt someone from each firm is checking up on this thread, and upon seeing their firm mentioned will instruct their interviewers to carefully analyze undergrad transcripts more than they would have.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm

Botiques and pros care. Gp lit groups tend not to. Baker botts DC, Goldberg traugig Chicago were two exceptions, they wanted them.

I wouldn't worry, you gotta try for the cb no matter what.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby wiseowl » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:53 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Botiques and pros care. Gp lit groups tend not to. Baker botts DC, Goldberg traugig Chicago were two exceptions, they wanted them.

I wouldn't worry, you gotta try for the cb no matter what.


cr.

the 3 F's all care. firms like Steptoe and Oliff and Oblon care. IP sections of GP firms often do not.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:34 pm

wiseowl wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Botiques and pros care. Gp lit groups tend not to. Baker botts DC, Goldberg traugig Chicago were two exceptions, they wanted them.

I wouldn't worry, you gotta try for the cb no matter what.


cr.

the 3 F's all care. firms like Steptoe and Oliff and Oblon care. IP sections of GP firms often do not.


Did Oliff ask for ug transcript on their resume drop?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did Oliff ask for ug transcript on their resume drop?


For the resume collect, no. I can't speak to whether or not they require one for an interview, as I did not get PS'd

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby wiseowl » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:40 pm

They asked for one on the interview in 2010. May have changed since. There are few more purely pros firms.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:53 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Did Oliff ask for ug transcript on their resume drop?


For the resume collect, no. I can't speak to whether or not they require one for an interview, as I did not get PS'd


Oliff is hugely ttt and only worth taking if it's your only offer right?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby fatduck » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:54 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Did Oliff ask for ug transcript on their resume drop?


For the resume collect, no. I can't speak to whether or not they require one for an interview, as I did not get PS'd


Oliff is hugely ttt and only worth taking if it's your only offer right?

this is my understanding, yes

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:21 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Did Oliff ask for ug transcript on their resume drop?


For the resume collect, no. I can't speak to whether or not they require one for an interview, as I did not get PS'd


Oliff is hugely ttt and only worth taking if it's your only offer right?


I have heard bad things about firm work environment/culture. I think it's also pretty much all inbound pros

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:37 pm

what you have heard is likely true (had CB there)

associates allegedly have no internet at the desk (not sure how research/stuff on PAIR, etc is done)

whole firm is required to eat lunch together every day like a middle school

very high percentage of work is apps originating in Japan being filed at the PTO.

still, beggars cant be choosers - they are nice people, and working in Alexandria would have been nice.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:what you have heard is likely true (had CB there)

associates allegedly have no internet at the desk (not sure how research/stuff on PAIR, etc is done)

whole firm is required to eat lunch together every day like a middle school

very high percentage of work is apps originating in Japan being filed at the PTO.

still, beggars cant be choosers - they are nice people, and working in Alexandria would have been nice.


What do they pay? This sounds hilariously awful.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:48 pm

From what I've heard, $135k.

I interviewed there. While they do have ridiculous rules, after seeing how they operate, if I was a GC and needed to get lots of pros work done efficiently, they're the ones I'd go to.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:From what I've heard, $135k.

I interviewed there. While they do have ridiculous rules, after seeing how they operate, if I was a GC and needed to get lots of pros work done efficiently, they're the ones I'd go to.


I wouldn't, only bottom barrel talent would work there.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:08 pm

I've got an interview scheduled but it says "not invited." Weird.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:49 am

If a firm has multiple office listings for which they are interviewing (Main Office, Satellite Office 1, and Firmwide), and if my interview is for "Firmwide," does that mean that if they ask me which office interest me, that I should refrain from saying "Main Office" and "Satellite Office 1"?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:41 pm

So do you guys think we will find out at midnight again if any of our alternates turned to interviews?

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby r6_philly » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So do you guys think we will find out at midnight again if any of our alternates turned to interviews?


Yes I think the final schedule is due tomorrow so 1AM ET sounds about right.

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Re: Loyola Patent Fair 2012

Postby r6_philly » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If a firm has multiple office listings for which they are interviewing (Main Office, Satellite Office 1, and Firmwide), and if my interview is for "Firmwide," does that mean that if they ask me which office interest me, that I should refrain from saying "Main Office" and "Satellite Office 1"?


You will be asked about your office preference when you get there. They might have moved you to firmwide because each office is filled out, so just say your preference.




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