Good job on being black, having IP, or having connections.Anonymous User wrote:I am in the bottom 25% at a top 40 law school and landed BigLaw as a 1L....
Don't kid yourself, no one hired you because of your smarts.
Good job on being black, having IP, or having connections.Anonymous User wrote:I am in the bottom 25% at a top 40 law school and landed BigLaw as a 1L....
DAMNjohansantana21 wrote:Good job on being black, having IP, or having connections.Anonymous User wrote:I am in the bottom 25% at a top 40 law school and landed BigLaw as a 1L....
Don't kid yourself, no one hired you because of your smarts.
I did all of those things and had top 10% grades at a top 40 and still whiffed on biglaw for this summer. You're either lying, have obscene connections, or have a PhD in a patent relevant science from an ivyAnonymous User wrote:Nah...I had multiple offers, but the gist was that I applied early and by the time they saw my grades I wasn't a mere applicant, I was a finalist for the position. I was honest, said my grades were not where I wanted them to be, but if they looked at my undergrad record, previous professional work experience, etc., then they will see that my grades don't reflect my true ability.GW_Law_Student wrote:connectionsAnonymous User wrote:It ain't bro, so don't worry about it....pballer wrote:Sounds made up
Moreover, I went to those "networking" events so I can speak with the Partners and sell myself, rather than wait on a HR to make the decision. A lot of places refused to interview me, however, if you cast a wide net and do the things that other people aren't doing, doors can open.
Top 10% from a tier one striking out makes me quiver in fear.pballer wrote: I did all of those things and had top 10% grades at a top 40 and still whiffed on biglaw for this summer. You're either lying, have obscene connections, or have a PhD in a patent relevant science from an ivy
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TLS threads so often devolve so fast.Anonymous User wrote:Well, I guess you suck at interviewing, bro. I have an undergrad degree (from a Top 100 state school), am not lying and have zero connections. But what I do have is "street smarts," business experience, and initiative. When I'm "networking" and drinking beer with Partners, we aren't talking about grades, we are talking about my work experience or I'm asking them questions, trying to make a connection.
When I'm interviewing, I know the grades are my only weak spot, so I have a canned answer prepared if they bring it up or I bring it up before they do, which is more impressive to them because it shows that I'm not trying to hide from it.
What is PMF?LawIdiot86 wrote:Shockingly, he is not screwed out of PMF, because GWU places the largest number of law students in that program and the evaluators are specifically not permitted to consider grades or school reputation.kalvano wrote:You're in the bottom quarter of the class? Screwed out of most everything.
I had the same question, so I googled "PMF GWU law" and got this: http://www.law.gwu.edu/Careers/currents ... ession.pdfGW_Law_Student wrote:What is PMF?LawIdiot86 wrote:Shockingly, he is not screwed out of PMF, because GWU places the largest number of law students in that program and the evaluators are specifically not permitted to consider grades or school reputation.kalvano wrote:You're in the bottom quarter of the class? Screwed out of most everything.
Groan.Anonymous User wrote:I had the same question, so I googled "PMF GWU law" and got this: http://www.law.gwu.edu/Careers/currents ... ession.pdfGW_Law_Student wrote:What is PMF?LawIdiot86 wrote:Shockingly, he is not screwed out of PMF, because GWU places the largest number of law students in that program and the evaluators are specifically not permitted to consider grades or school reputation.kalvano wrote:You're in the bottom quarter of the class? Screwed out of most everything.
johansantana21 wrote:Good job on being black, having IP, or having connections.Anonymous User wrote:I am in the bottom 25% at a top 40 law school and landed BigLaw as a 1L....
Don't kid yourself, no one hired you because of your smarts.
Anyone else have any substantive commentary on a 1LE 75th percentile passed patent bar, NOT EE/ME/CS.?
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I'll do that. Just to be clear, though, "top quarter" technically means I might be first in my class. 75th percentile is highly specific.2LLLL wrote:Anyone else have any substantive commentary on a 1LE 75th percentile passed patent bar, NOT EE/ME/CS.?
Please list your class rank on your resume as "Top 25%" and not 75th percentile so people know what you're talking about
Actually, at GW you can't put either of those things on your resume. So problem solved.GW_Law_Student wrote:I'll do that. Just to be clear, though, "top quarter" technically means I might be first in my class. 75th percentile is highly specific.2LLLL wrote: Please list your class rank on your resume as "Top 25%" and not 75th percentile so people know what you're talking about
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If it was based on an assumption that the law grades follow the normal curve and that by knowing two points on the curve, you can reconstruct the curve, you are incorrect. While in theory the grades follow a normal curve, in practice they do not.GW_Law_Student wrote:I derived my exact percentile rank through a mysterious occult method I learned whilst in the company of a coven of demonic witches... they called it Statistics 301.
Thanks anon and mi. I'm going to destroy my finals. If I can drag my GPA up to 85th, am I basically a lock?
if you get your gpa to top 15% you are in LR-range. no IP LRer (that graded on) my year had much trouble finding a job. fwiw, i was close to top 10% when i did OCI and will be at a V10.GW_Law_Student wrote:I derived my exact percentile rank through a mysterious occult method I learned whilst in the company of a coven of demonic witches... they called it Statistics 301.
Thanks anon and mi. I'm going to destroy my finals. If I can drag my GPA up to 85th, am I basically a lock?
HA HA WHOOPS! Guess I missed that rule. Really, we can't even put "George Washington Scholar" or "Thurgood Marshall Scholar"? Isn't that the same thing as putting Top 15% or Top 33%?mi-chan17 wrote:Actually, at GW you can't put either of those things on your resume. So problem solved.
You can put GW Scholar or TM Scholar (and what it means, in terms of percentages). That's all fine. You just can't try to guesstimate your specific ranking and then put it on your resume. There's exact language you're supposed to use somewhere in the CDO's handbook.Anonymous User wrote:HA HA WHOOPS! Guess I missed that rule. Really, we can't even put "George Washington Scholar" or "Thurgood Marshall Scholar"? Isn't that the same thing as putting Top 15% or Top 33%?mi-chan17 wrote:Actually, at GW you can't put either of those things on your resume. So problem solved.
It's my understanding that people who have GPAs in LR range and are IP are generally a lock for firms. Not necessarily your top choice firm, or even your second choice, but no one I know who's on LR hasn't been able to lock something up.GW_Law_Student wrote: Thanks anon and mi. I'm going to destroy my finals. If I can drag my GPA up to 85th, am I basically a lock?
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You can also put your exact GPA on your resume. So, if you were around the top 16 to 20 percent, it might behoove you to put your GPA on your resume to distinguish yourself from all the other Thurgood-Marshalls. 3.6 is a lot different than 3.4.mi-chan17 wrote:You can put GW Scholar or TM Scholar (and what it means, in terms of percentages). That's all fine. You just can't try to guesstimate your specific ranking and then put it on your resume. There's exact language you're supposed to use somewhere in the CDO's handbook.Anonymous User wrote:HA HA WHOOPS! Guess I missed that rule. Really, we can't even put "George Washington Scholar" or "Thurgood Marshall Scholar"? Isn't that the same thing as putting Top 15% or Top 33%?mi-chan17 wrote:Actually, at GW you can't put either of those things on your resume. So problem solved.
Why would you ever leave your GPA off your resume at those levels?GW_Law_Student wrote:You can also put your exact GPA on your resume. So, if you were around the top 16 to 20 percent, it might behoove you to put your GPA on your resume to distinguish yourself from all the other Thurgood-Marshalls. 3.6 is a lot different than 3.4.mi-chan17 wrote:You can put GW Scholar or TM Scholar (and what it means, in terms of percentages). That's all fine. You just can't try to guesstimate your specific ranking and then put it on your resume. There's exact language you're supposed to use somewhere in the CDO's handbook.Anonymous User wrote:HA HA WHOOPS! Guess I missed that rule. Really, we can't even put "George Washington Scholar" or "Thurgood Marshall Scholar"? Isn't that the same thing as putting Top 15% or Top 33%?mi-chan17 wrote:Actually, at GW you can't put either of those things on your resume. So problem solved.
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