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The Duck
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Re: Still no job?

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:13 pm

2LsAPlenty wrote:To whom it may concern letters will not be of concern to any prospective employer. Be smart. It is still a bad market. ATL reporting 20 more law schools to be added to the fraud suits by former students who are still unemployed based upon employment representations by the schools.


I disagree. Mail merges are simple. Most schools even already have databases for judges.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:30 pm

I applied to 25 public interest positions at my law school through simplicity. I didn't want to waste my time with uploading 25 cover letters, so I put, "Dear Hiring Manager" on my cover letter. I only received two job interviews from that process and career services literally called me into their office and told me that some organizations said they didn't want to interview me b/c I put, "Dear Hiring Manager."

If you don't know the name of the contact person at least put, "Dear ACLU of Detroit Representative."

Twenty applications is real weak. Outside of the 25 public interest firms through simplicity, I have applied to 50-60 positions and received three job offers (all paid). Even after accepting, I am still reviewing the job postings so I can see what positions are coming through and writing down contact information for next year...

You probably won't get a firm job at this point, but a small firm paying $10-15 hour is possible. Additionally, judges and other organizations are still hiring. However, you better step up. If you don't find something by April 15th, you should be real worried....

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Re: Still no job?

Postby newyorker88 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:29 pm

The Duck wrote:
2LsAPlenty wrote:To whom it may concern letters will not be of concern to any prospective employer. Be smart. It is still a bad market. ATL reporting 20 more law schools to be added to the fraud suits by former students who are still unemployed based upon employment representations by the schools.


I disagree. Mail merges are simple.


They're simple just not effective.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby keg411 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:35 pm

newyorker88 wrote:
The Duck wrote:
2LsAPlenty wrote:To whom it may concern letters will not be of concern to any prospective employer. Be smart. It is still a bad market. ATL reporting 20 more law schools to be added to the fraud suits by former students who are still unemployed based upon employment representations by the schools.


I disagree. Mail merges are simple.


They're simple just not effective.


For state-level judges, yes they are.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:39 pm

newyorker88 wrote:
The Duck wrote:
2LsAPlenty wrote:To whom it may concern letters will not be of concern to any prospective employer. Be smart. It is still a bad market. ATL reporting 20 more law schools to be added to the fraud suits by former students who are still unemployed based upon employment representations by the schools.


I disagree. Mail merges are simple.


They're simple just not effective.


Yes they are. Get a spreadsheet and fill in. Write your cover letter so there are places to put some specific information in a sentence or two. Put the sentences in the spreadsheet. Mail merge and you instantly have dozens of personalized cover letters. If you do it right, it takes about 30 seconds per website to fill in info and wire a sentence or two.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby jpSartre » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:44 pm

1L, 1 app, 1 interview, 1 offer, 1 job

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Re: Still no job?

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:1L, 1 app, 1 interview, 1 offer, 1 job


Congratulations. You're the best. You win the Internet. Maybe during internship, you'll learn not to be such a douche in a thread by an OP with no job.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby seatown12 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:21 am

jpSartre wrote:1L, 1 app, 1 interview, 1 offer, 1 job

did you remember to thank your dad?

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Re: Still no job?

Postby LawIdiot86 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:31 am

seatown12 wrote:
jpSartre wrote:1L, 1 app, 1 interview, 1 offer, 1 job

did you remember to thank your dad?


Why? He clearly earned it on his merit. I mean, sure his dad introduced him, set up the interview, helped him tie his tie beforehand and wiped his behind, but it was all his own performance and charisma that got him the job.

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OP

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:13 pm

I have an interview tomorrow from a job I applied to on Friday. Hopefully I get a couple more interviews and to edit my original post, I probably actually sent around 40 I know that's not much better lol.

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Re: OP

Postby thegrayman » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have an interview tomorrow from a job I applied to on Friday. Hopefully I get a couple more interviews and to edit my original post, I probably actually sent around 40 I know that's not much better lol.


Good stuff, knock it out!

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Re: Still no job?

Postby chewy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:59 am

To slightly piggy back off this thread, if you have two DA offers. One at more of a national city (large and recognizable) that is unpaid, but a secluded city DA position pays, is there any benefit for a 1L to have a "bigger city" experiences/prestige for the prosecutor's office?

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Re: Still no job?

Postby seatown12 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:17 am

Go with the one that gives you the best chance of being hired post-grad.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby dturnbull87 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:26 pm

To OP. Consider a new career as a paralegal. The world simply does not need lawyers right now, and there is no way of predicting what the market will need in 2 years. You're taking a huge risk with your life, if you haven't heard back from anybody yet. Paralegal employment is expected to grow by 18.3% from 2010 to 2020 according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There will always be more paralegals than lawyers.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby cinephile » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:23 pm

dturnbull87 wrote:To OP. Consider a new career as a paralegal. The world simply does not need lawyers right now, and there is no way of predicting what the market will need in 2 years. You're taking a huge risk with your life, if you haven't heard back from anybody yet. Paralegal employment is expected to grow by 18.3% from 2010 to 2020 according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There will always be more paralegals than lawyers.


You must be trolling. This person has a full scholarship. The only reason he/she hasn't heard back from anyone yet is because he/she didn't apply to enough places. But there's still time.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:49 pm

cinephile wrote:
dturnbull87 wrote:To OP. Consider a new career as a paralegal. The world simply does not need lawyers right now, and there is no way of predicting what the market will need in 2 years. You're taking a huge risk with your life, if you haven't heard back from anybody yet. Paralegal employment is expected to grow by 18.3% from 2010 to 2020 according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There will always be more paralegals than lawyers.


You must be trolling. This person has a full scholarship. The only reason he/she hasn't heard back from anyone yet is because he/she didn't apply to enough places. But there's still time.


Protip: Having a full scholarship, while helpful for dealing with tuition, does not help anyone secure a decent legal position.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
cinephile wrote:
dturnbull87 wrote:To OP. Consider a new career as a paralegal. The world simply does not need lawyers right now, and there is no way of predicting what the market will need in 2 years. You're taking a huge risk with your life, if you haven't heard back from anybody yet. Paralegal employment is expected to grow by 18.3% from 2010 to 2020 according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There will always be more paralegals than lawyers.


You must be trolling. This person has a full scholarship. The only reason he/she hasn't heard back from anyone yet is because he/she didn't apply to enough places. But there's still time.


Protip: Having a full scholarship, while helpful for dealing with tuition, does not help anyone secure a decent legal position.

No, but it means the OP is not "taking a huge risk with [his/her] life" by going to law school. If they can stay at or near the top of their class, they've got a good shot at winning the TT biglaw lottery if that's an interest. OP will be fine.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:04 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
cinephile wrote:
dturnbull87 wrote:To OP. Consider a new career as a paralegal. The world simply does not need lawyers right now, and there is no way of predicting what the market will need in 2 years. You're taking a huge risk with your life, if you haven't heard back from anybody yet. Paralegal employment is expected to grow by 18.3% from 2010 to 2020 according to the US Bureau of Labor and Statistics. There will always be more paralegals than lawyers.


You must be trolling. This person has a full scholarship. The only reason he/she hasn't heard back from anyone yet is because he/she didn't apply to enough places. But there's still time.


Protip: Having a full scholarship, while helpful for dealing with tuition, does not help anyone secure a decent legal position.

No, but it means the OP is not "taking a huge risk with [his/her] life" by going to law school. If they can stay at or near the top of their class, they've got a good shot at winning the TT biglaw lottery if that's an interest. OP will be fine.


Three years of opportunity costs and living expenses is taking a rather big risk. Especially if you had a previous career or a worthwhile undergrad degree.

By the way, I didn't see anything about the OP being at the top of his class. At T2s, biglaw hiring numbers (that have kind of recovered for T14s) are so pathetic is it is anything but a "good shot".

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Re: Still no job?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Three years of opportunity costs and living expenses is taking a rather big risk. Especially if you had a previous career or a worthwhile undergrad degree.

By the way, I didn't see anything about the OP being at the top of his class. At T2s, biglaw hiring numbers (that have kind of recovered for T14s) are so pathetic is it is anything but a "good shot".

You're right, I was either thinking of another thread or just misread, I guess.

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Re: Still no job?

Postby monkey85 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I applied to 25 public interest positions at my law school through symplicity.


Fixed. Attention to detail abounds in this one.




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