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1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:25 pm

Just wondering if anyone knows of any 1L summer jobs/internships that perform drug tests - I'm assuming firms usually don't for the most part, but what about places like the U.S. Attorney's Office, State AG's office, or Public Defenders?

-Thanks

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby LawMan20 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:40 pm

Stop getting high and you won't have to worry about it.

HTH

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just wondering if anyone knows of any 1L summer jobs/internships that perform drug tests - I'm assuming firms usually don't for the most part, but what about places like the U.S. Attorney's Office, State AG's office, or Public Defenders?

-Thanks


Firms usually don't drug test? Do they have to notify you if they intend to?

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just wondering if anyone knows of any 1L summer jobs/internships that perform drug tests - I'm assuming firms usually don't for the most part, but what about places like the U.S. Attorney's Office, State AG's office, or Public Defenders?

-Thanks


Firms usually don't drug test? Do they have to notify you if they intend to?

They can make it a condition of employment, and require you to do random ones as a condition of continuing employment.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby MBZags » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:42 pm

I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:46 pm

MBZags wrote:I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.


Did they notify you beforehand they were drug testing you, or notify you the day you started?

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
MBZags wrote:I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.


Did they notify you beforehand they were drug testing you, or notify you the day you started?


How about you just go ahead and stop doing drugs.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby 09042014 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:52 pm

kalvano wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
MBZags wrote:I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.


Did they notify you beforehand they were drug testing you, or notify you the day you started?


How about you just go ahead and stop doing drugs.


Stop being a moralistic bitch.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Detrox » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:55 pm

kalvano wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
MBZags wrote:I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.


Did they notify you beforehand they were drug testing you, or notify you the day you started?


How about you just go ahead and stop doing drugs.


This response is tired and useless. People who do drugs and inquire about drug tests know that drug tests are not a problem if they just stop taking drugs. They're simply asking to know if they will be tested at jobs. They're not asking how to avoid this or bypass it or for your thoughts on their personal activities. They're asking for information, and if you don't want to help, then why post at all?

To the op, gov't jobs are notorious for drug policies and testing, whereas firms jobs vary but tend not to test.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Cupidity » Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Stop getting high and you won't have to worry about it.

HTH


Don't recall being a pussy as a justification for anonymous.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:18 pm

As far as I can tell, everyone tests anymore, except small firms (who can't afford it). Just do what I am planning on doing: smoke less in the spring, then quit in April. Sure finals are going to suck without weed, but getting a job is important.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Stanford4Me » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:25 pm

My firm didn't test. Gov't jobs test. In-house positions (from my small sample of friends who did that) test.
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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:As far as I can tell, everyone tests anymore, except small firms (who can't afford it). Just do what I am planning on doing: smoke less in the spring, then quit in April. Sure finals are going to suck without weed, but getting a job is important.


Thank you for this. This is exactly what I was wondering. And to Kalvano, bro, a little ganja never hurt anyone.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby kalvano » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:47 pm

I never commented on the smoking one way or the other as far as right or wrong; I don't care either way. But if you're that worried about it in regards to employment, then the obvious answer is to stop. If it's a choice between a job and weed, one would think that isn't much of a choice at all.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby MBZags » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
MBZags wrote:I had to take one for my in-house internship. It even included a tobacco test, lulz.


Did they notify you beforehand they were drug testing you, or notify you the day you started?


I knew a couple weeks in advance.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby ColtsFan88 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:27 pm

kalvano wrote:I never commented on the smoking one way or the other as far as right or wrong; I don't care either way. But if you're that worried about it in regards to employment, then the obvious answer is to stop. If it's a choice between a job and weed, one would think that isn't much of a choice at all.


That's the point. The OP is asking if this choice needs to be made. If the answer to his question is no, firms don't test then he doesn't need to make any choice.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 pm

USAO will ask if you've done any drugs in the past year, if you answer yes its an automatic DQ. Lying on a federal form is a big deal and if you do it definitely don't plan on working there again (apparently they polygraph their permanent hires) Some offices will have you fill out an SF 86 form which asks you to list all the drugs you've done in the past 7 years. Meant to say that this is why I ended up having to awkwardly pull out of the app process with the USAO (had an interview but had to hand in the forms first). I planned on just answering honestly but apparently there is a chance that having all your drug history out there can bite you in the ass when you go up for C&F.

So basically if you've smoked any weed this year probably best to just give the USAO a pass. People I know with gigs lined up at DA didn't have to fill anything out but plan on quitting in time for a drug test this summer.

All in all probably just a lot smarter to not burn in law school.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby fatduck » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:USAO will ask if you've done any drugs in the past year, if you answer yes its an automatic DQ. Lying on a federal form is a big deal and if you do it definitely don't plan on working there again (apparently they polygraph their permanent hires) Some offices will have you fill out an SF 86 form which asks you to list all the drugs you've done in the past 7 years.

i suspect that USAO/DA only require SF 85P, which only requires you to disclose drug use in the past year.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby lsatcrazy » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:00 am

kalvano wrote:I never commented on the smoking one way or the other as far as right or wrong; I don't care either way. But if you're that worried about it in regards to employment, then the obvious answer is to stop. If it's a choice between a job and weed, one would think that isn't much of a choice at all.

This man begs to differ:
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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby mattviphky » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:12 am

I looked through a few gov't agencies, but the CIA was the only one that explicitly said that use of illegal drugs since entering law school will disqualify you. https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportuniti ... clerk.html

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby LawMan20 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:05 am

Cupidity wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Stop getting high and you won't have to worry about it.

HTH


Don't recall being a pussy as a justification for anonymous.


Got it changed to my actual moniker. Happy? Douche bag.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby kalvano » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:07 am

fatduck wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:USAO will ask if you've done any drugs in the past year, if you answer yes its an automatic DQ. Lying on a federal form is a big deal and if you do it definitely don't plan on working there again (apparently they polygraph their permanent hires) Some offices will have you fill out an SF 86 form which asks you to list all the drugs you've done in the past 7 years.

i suspect that USAO/DA only require SF 85P, which only requires you to disclose drug use in the past year.


SF85P is indeed the form for the USAO. It's basically a "Sensitive" clearance, I believe.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:19 am

Haven't touched a thing since before law school started. But, might just barely be within one year. I don't know what to do...already accepted the DOJ offer.

And, I don't have many other things that I could potentially do this summer.
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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby Stanford4Me » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:25 am

Anonymous User wrote:Haven't touched a thing since before law school started. But, might just barely be within one year. I don't know what to do...already accepted the offer.

And, I don't have many other things that I could potentially do this summer.

You'll be fine.

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Re: 1L Summer Job - Drug Tests

Postby ben4847 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:26 am

My in house counsel internship did a urine test. And didn't give me much warning neither.
Probably because they are a big corp with like half a zillion employees, so they just have this standardized hiring system.




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