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Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
Just recently received my first semester Grades. 3.5 GPA, top 17% percent of class at Saint Johns University . Anyone know if i would be able to pull a decent internship in my 2L summer if i maintain this GPA? Perhaps a law firm which pays 100K out the gate?
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
In the past pre ITE id say you are on the inside looking out. Nowadays, Id say you are on the outside looking in for 100k jobs. Prob 1/3 chance of getting something around 100k if you hustle.
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
maybe 5% chance of getting a biglaw job. I'd really focus on smaller things though like immigration, slip n' fall shops. Many firms coming to St. John's want to see top 10% of even 5% I believe.
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
Working off of --LinkRemoved--, I would assume the 7 clerks and and 41 people at 100+ lawyer firms are making in the 80-100k+ range. That works out to 16% of the class. Of course variations are possible (some of those clerks might be at local trial courts; some people might be at high-paying boutiques). If you're top 17%, that probably means you're right on the edge of where the sort of job you're looking for can be obtained. This is where your interview abilities, plus factors and geographic/practice preferences come into play big-time. Are you willing to move anywhere? Do you have strong ties to a plausible secondary market like Philly or Chicago? Are you interested in something like IP or bankruptcy? Do you have any plus factors like URM or WE?MrAnon wrote:maybe 5% chance of getting a biglaw job. I'd really focus on smaller things though like immigration, slip n' fall shops. Many firms coming to St. John's want to see top 10% of even 5% I believe.
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
1. Its not 16% of the class. Its 14%. The clerks are much more likely to be state court clerkships that federal clerkships that feed to biglaw.LawIdiot86 wrote:Working off of --LinkRemoved--, I would assume the 7 clerks and and 41 people at 100+ lawyer firms are making in the 80-100k+ range. That works out to 16% of the class. Of course variations are possible (some of those clerks might be at local trial courts; some people might be at high-paying boutiques). If you're top 17%, that probably means you're right on the edge of where the sort of job you're looking for can be obtained. This is where your interview abilities, plus factors and geographic/practice preferences come into play big-time. Are you willing to move anywhere? Do you have strong ties to a plausible secondary market like Philly or Chicago? Are you interested in something like IP or bankruptcy? Do you have any plus factors like URM or WE?MrAnon wrote:maybe 5% chance of getting a biglaw job. I'd really focus on smaller things though like immigration, slip n' fall shops. Many firms coming to St. John's want to see top 10% of even 5% I believe.
2. Some number of the group of 41 are only working as doc review temps in large firms. Could be 41 of 41. Could be 20 of 41. Could be 5 of 41.
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
First of all, what is this "top-17%" BS? You're top-20%. I've never known firms not to use hiring cutoffs (stated or otherwise) that are multiples of 5. As for whether top-20% at St. Johns has a shot at a 6-figure firm job, the answer, unless you have some kind of X factor like family connections or maybe URM status, is no. I go to a top-25 school and people at the bottom end of the top-20% aren't getting those jobs. Sorry. But the good news is that you have one more semester to get your grades into the top-10% where you'll have a fighting chance, and, unlike most of your classmates, this is actually doable for you. Good luck.
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Re: Top 17% SJU- What should i expect?
This is your first mistake.LawIdiot86 wrote:Working off of [url]http://www.stjohns.edu/academics/graduate/law/career/general/placement.stj[/url], I would assume the 7 clerks and and 41 people at 100+ lawyer firms are making in the 80-100k+ range. That works out to 16% of the class. Of course variations are possible (some of those clerks might be at local trial courts; some people might be at high-paying boutiques). If you're top 17%, that probably means you're right on the edge of where the sort of job you're looking for can be obtained. This is where your interview abilities, plus factors and geographic/practice preferences come into play big-time. Are you willing to move anywhere? Do you have strong ties to a plausible secondary market like Philly or Chicago? Are you interested in something like IP or bankruptcy? Do you have any plus factors like URM or WE?MrAnon wrote:maybe 5% chance of getting a biglaw job. I'd really focus on smaller things though like immigration, slip n' fall shops. Many firms coming to St. John's want to see top 10% of even 5% I believe.