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HETPE3B
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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby HETPE3B » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:24 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
...so every firm that has a 100% offer rate cold offers at least one person?


No.Yes.

fixed

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:26 pm

HETPE3B wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
...so every firm that has a 100% offer rate cold offers at least one person?


No.Yes.

fixed


My firm had a 100% offer rate and cold offered no one.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby HETPE3B » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:27 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
HETPE3B wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
...so every firm that has a 100% offer rate cold offers at least one person?


No.Yes.

fixed


My firm had a 100% offer rate and cold offered no one.

And you know this HOW??

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:29 pm

HETPE3B wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
HETPE3B wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
...so every firm that has a 100% offer rate cold offers at least one person?


No.Yes.

fixed


My firm had a 100% offer rate and cold offered no one.

And you know this HOW??


Funny... I was thinking of asking you the same thing.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby c3pO4 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:32 pm

Why would anybody possibly care if every firm cold-offers someone? This seems like such a silly concern. I gotta weigh in with FP on this one HETP3B.

BTW, you realize once you get an offer, you can still be fired or laid off, right? Real world is a bitch.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:35 pm

Why would anybody possibly care if every firm cold-offers someone?


Either way, seems like a ridiculously hard claim to prove.

I know my firm didn't cold offer anyone because they all returned as permanent associates.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Helmholtz » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:38 pm

Discussion during an OCI / callback interview after we've both loosened up a little bit:

**general discussion about the summer-associate experience**

Me: "Does something like that come up when they're reviewing at the end of the summer how the person did?"
Interviewer: "No. Pretty much the only rule of being a summer associate is don't be an idiot."
Me: "Haha. Is there anything that sticks out in your mind as something a summer associate did that completely dumbfounded you, to the point of thinking they were an 'idiot,'?"
Interviewer: "Eh, there was this one summer associate who was on a boat ride on the Hudson. She got a little too drunk, took off her dress, stripped down to her underwear, and jumped into the water."
Me: "Wow."
Interviewer: "Yeah.....I guess she still got an offer though. That's what I mean."

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:40 pm

That was at Cleary during the boom years. Not trying to out you, but that incident was pretty well publicized on ATL. Jonas Blank at Skadden also received an offer, again during the boom years. Since it was during the boom years, I don't really take it as indicative.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Helmholtz » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:41 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:That was at Cleary during the boom years. Not trying to out you, but that incident was pretty well publicized on ATL. Jonas Blank at Skadden also received an offer, again during the boom years. Since it was during the boom years, I don't really take it as indicative.


Interview was not with Cleary though....

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:42 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:That was at Cleary during the boom years. Not trying to out you, but that incident was pretty well publicized on ATL. Jonas Blank at Skadden also received an offer, again during the boom years. Since it was during the boom years, I don't really take it as indicative.


Interview was not with Cleary though....


...there is another Aqua Girl (tm)!?!??!??!!

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Helmholtz » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:44 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:That was at Cleary during the boom years. Not trying to out you, but that incident was pretty well publicized on ATL. Jonas Blank at Skadden also received an offer, again during the boom years. Since it was during the boom years, I don't really take it as indicative.


Interview was not with Cleary though....


...there is another Aqua Girl (tm)!?!??!??!!


Interview was with two associates. Both of them were in the room at that time. Both said it was an associate with their firm. A different (non-Cleary) V10 firm.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:45 pm

Jesus.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:57 pm

The stories suggest there were in fact two aqua girls: one who *fell* into the water and one who stripped and jumped (the non-cleary girl.) lore has it that the one who jumped handed her dress to a partner before jumping. :mrgreen:

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The stories suggest there were in fact two aqua girls: one who *fell* into the water and one who stripped and jumped (the non-cleary girl.) lore has it that the one who jumped handed her dress to a partner before jumping. :mrgreen:


Surprised Aqua Girl II didn't make it to ATL. Elie is really resting on his donu- err... laurels.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby lisjjen » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:13 am

Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The stories suggest there were in fact two aqua girls: one who *fell* into the water and one who stripped and jumped (the non-cleary girl.) lore has it that the one who jumped handed her dress to a partner before jumping. :mrgreen:


Surprised Aqua Girl II didn't make it to ATL. Elie is really resting on his donu- err... laurels.


I see Elie's ATL hate-train has made it over to TLS

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:09 am

lisjjen wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The stories suggest there were in fact two aqua girls: one who *fell* into the water and one who stripped and jumped (the non-cleary girl.) lore has it that the one who jumped handed her dress to a partner before jumping. :mrgreen:


Surprised Aqua Girl II didn't make it to ATL. Elie is really resting on his donu- err... laurels.


I see Elie's ATL hate-train has made it over to TLS


Walruses don't have feelings bro.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby koalatriste » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:15 am

Fresh Prince wrote:
lisjjen wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:The stories suggest there were in fact two aqua girls: one who *fell* into the water and one who stripped and jumped (the non-cleary girl.) lore has it that the one who jumped handed her dress to a partner before jumping. :mrgreen:


Surprised Aqua Girl II didn't make it to ATL. Elie is really resting on his donu- err... laurels.


I see Elie's ATL hate-train has made it over to TLS


Walruses don't have feelings bro.


+1000 (his weight!).

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby sunynp » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:40 am

Here are some more:
Don't complain ever about anything. Whatever you say will get back to people.
Finish work early if at all possible.
Be extremely organized about everything. Keep your files, desk, work organized as humanly possible. If you are not naturally organized, learn how.
Be very nice to and patient with all support staff. Losing patience will hurt you.
Stay calm under pressure.
Proofread your work at least twice before handing it in.
Check in halfway through a project and make sure you are on the right track.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Borhas » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:48 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:That was at Cleary during the boom years. Not trying to out you, but that incident was pretty well publicized on ATL. Jonas Blank at Skadden also received an offer, again during the boom years. Since it was during the boom years, I don't really take it as indicative.


Interview was not with Cleary though....


...there is another Aqua Girl (tm)!?!??!??!!


Interview was with two associates. Both of them were in the room at that time. Both said it was an associate with their firm. A different (non-Cleary) V10 firm.

Dude probably read story elsewhere and lied to you

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:54 pm

Dude probably read story elsewhere and lied to you


This was my first instinct.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Guchster » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:10 pm

sunynp wrote:Here are some more:
Don't complain ever about anything. Whatever you say will get back to people.
Finish work early if at all possible.
Be extremely organized about everything. Keep your files, desk, work organized as humanly possible. If you are not naturally organized, learn how.
Be very nice to and patient with all support staff. Losing patience will hurt you.
Stay calm under pressure.
Proofread your work at least twice before handing it in.
Check in halfway through a project and make sure you are on the right track.


I've heard countless stories from associates/partners on how support staff is everything to making it in biglaw. Pissing off secretaries/paralegals can lead to them really screwing you over when you need them in your most desperate times, or saving your ass and pulling out miracles for you if you treated them well.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:24 pm

the aqua girl i heard summered at cleary, and then at arnold porter, then clerked for a tenth circuit judge.

she's on Virginia law review.

she failedthe bar the first try though.

if you have great grades, don't worry.

grades are everything.

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Re: How to Succeed as a Summer Associate

Postby HETPE3B » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:grades are everything.

For some reason, I'm skeptical about this statement..




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