Do grades matter for offer?

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Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:05 am

All my 2L fall grades were released today. I didn't do terrible (no C's or anything), but dropped from 1L. How much do grades matter for post-SA offer? Firm is V-50.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby c3pO4 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:22 am

A novel question

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Grizz » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:26 am

A .1 drop ought to ding you at most firms, which sucks bro. At least if you were at GDC your grades would have to go up, which is crazy! Also check your credit score; you could get dinged for bad credit.

Best of luck man.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby zomginternets » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:44 am

Grizz wrote:A .1 drop ought to ding you at most firms, which sucks bro. At least if you were at GDC your grades would have to go up, which is crazy! Also check your credit score; you could get dinged for bad credit.

Best of luck man.


Confirmed for GDC. Friend of a friend got no-offered because his GPA was 4.0 at the end of 1st year, and thus could not go up.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby omninode » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:11 am

You guys are mean. Although, I have to admit, it is hard to feel sorry for someone with a V50 offer.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:58 am

I wish I were in your position.

Below-median in 1L, 4.0 (and a 15-credit load) in 2L today. We probably go to the same school. Lower V100 offer that I don't really like.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:49 am

It probably depends how much they dropped.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Old Gregg » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:I wish I were in your position.

Below-median in 1L, 4.0 (and a 15-credit load) in 2L today. We probably go to the same school. Lower V100 offer that I don't really like.


You sound almost like the worst human being alive.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:47 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I wish I were in your position.

Below-median in 1L, 4.0 (and a 15-credit load) in 2L today. We probably go to the same school. Lower V100 offer that I don't really like.


You sound almost like the worst human being alive.


People look at things from different perspectives.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Bronte » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:54 pm

The answer to this question is that no one on TLS has the faintest idea how much grades matter to an offer. However, when you look at the 99% to 100% offer rates at a lot of these firms, it's hard to believe that anything less than a substantial deviation will result in a no offer, assuming no further financial catastrophes.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby traehekat » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:46 am

ugh can we please stop talking about this

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby dusk2k2 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:10 pm

Are people trolling with that .1 drop thing? I only got 1 grade back so far and it was a below median grade, so I dropped about .1. Once other grades come in it should be a lesser drop, but still a drop nonetheless.

So am I getting no offered?

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby c3pO4 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:14 pm

dusk2k2 wrote:Are people trolling with that .1 drop thing? I only got 1 grade back so far and it was a below median grade, so I dropped about .1. Once other grades come in it should be a lesser drop, but still a drop nonetheless.

So am I getting no offered?


sorry bro

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Grizz » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:17 pm

dusk2k2 wrote:Are people trolling with that .1 drop thing? I only got 1 grade back so far and it was a below median grade, so I dropped about .1. Once other grades come in it should be a lesser drop, but still a drop nonetheless.

So am I getting no offered?

With that drop? Probably. Better gun second semester brah

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby RVP11 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:21 pm

Bronte wrote:The answer to this question is that no one on TLS has the faintest idea how much grades matter to an offer.


Well, we know that if our firms didn't ask for 2L grades then they don't care about them.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby TrampsLikeU$ » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:26 pm

I dropped about .2 from 1L to 2L, and I still got an offer from GDC. No one at the firm ever mentioned grades in any part of the review process.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:27 pm

It's also incredibly firm specific. Short of anyone here actually creating databases (which won't happen because of fears of being outed), no one can give a universal answer. My general rule of thumb is to stay away from B-s or below. I realize those grades are more difficult to stay away from at certain schools, but a lot of partners don't know or care about that, so just keep plugging away.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Cavalier » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:28 pm

Law students can be way too paranoid sometimes. For grades to matter, you'd have to perform extremely poorly in your 2L year such that it would raise serious concerns about your work ethic. No one's going to care if you received some below median grades; every lawyer knows that law school grading can be random at times. If someone says they received a no-offer due to grades, it's probably because either (a) they were a shitty summer associate, or (b) their firm was looking for an excuse to shrink the incoming class because of financial concerns. Firms care too much about getting a near 100% offer rate to no-offer for minor grade drops.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby Bronte » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:16 pm

RVP11 wrote:
Bronte wrote:The answer to this question is that no one on TLS has the faintest idea how much grades matter to an offer.


Well, we know that if our firms didn't ask for 2L grades then they don't care about them.


This doesn't get us very far. Even if you were to divulge the firm, it would still provide very little in the way of an answer to the general question "how much do grades matter?"

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby concurrent fork » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:10 pm

Does ability to use search function matter for offer?

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby 09042014 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:17 pm

I got my offer for 2L revoked already. I got an A- in my summer school class. Even though it raised my GPA, they said I should have done better. And they were right. It was an easy A course. FML.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby IAFG » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I wish I were in your position.

Below-median in 1L, 4.0 (and a 15-credit load) in 2L today. We probably go to the same school. Lower V100 offer that I don't really like.


You sound almost like the worst human being alive.


People look at things from different perspectives.

And the worst human being alive looks at it from the perspective of the worst human being alive.

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Re: Do grades matter for offer?

Postby BruceWayne » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:44 pm

IAFG wrote:d the worst human being alive looks at it from the perspective of the worst human being alive.


To be fair he sounds like someone out of touch with the job market/career outlook for most Americans, i.e 90 percent of the people on this board ("Law school only makes sense if you go to a 'top 6'." "Most top 14 students are working shitlaw V200 firms." etc").




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