The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby beachbum » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:18 pm

Got another response from a V100 firm in the same secondary market (which I had applied to over the weekend) - while they're not hiring 1Ls, they expressed a lot of interest in keeping in contact and bringing me in over the summer to meet everyone, and then hiring me (?) for 2L summer. Hot damn. This was an incredibly productive rejection.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:51 pm

Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:53 pm

CCN 1L with two B's and a B-. I think this leaves me in the 10th percentile. I'm paying full tuition with intention of going government afterwards... fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby NYC Law » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.


Is that real? holy shit. They don't play around in Brooklyn.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby piccolittle » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.


:shock: God, that is ridiculous!

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby YourCaptain » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:08 pm

bdubs wrote:
YourCaptain wrote:guys, last year for me, i had no offer as of today. one month later i had state supreme court, fed district court, usao, fed coa, and 1l SA to choose from. trust me, do not stop applying. apply to every state you possible have connections to - fed agencies, state whatever you have to do. use the same "ties" paragraph, etc. honestly, the biggest time sink for this should be postage if they dont accept paper copies.

good luck


edit: make calls and follow up. dont email. call them. wait 2 weeks and call. i did this with a DAs office and a state court and it paid off.


Which option did you choose?


pm'd

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby piccolittle » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:12 pm

booboo wrote:<--- Genuinely happy, I hated seeing your concern in this thread. Hopefully a sign for better things in the future!


Guchster wrote:OMG YAY!!! :mrgreen: 8)

Congrats! You deserve it! And even though you might not take it, at least you have something awesome to fall back on.

Thanks, you guys!!!! It's been so great to have so much support over here.

<--- must learn not to be such a negative nancy, huh? Sorry :oops:

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:14 pm

I've got a callback scheduled with a PI org coming up and they still haven't even mentioned grades. Chances I can get the job without ever having to submit grades (which we don't yet have but will probably be horrible)? Hopefully high.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Guchster » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.


Yeah, that's a little harsh and unwarranted. Good luck on the job search though. It's for the best, you wouldn't want to work where those types of judgments are made.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby ilovesf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:29 pm

I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby ilovesf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:31 pm

Guchster wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.


Yeah, that's a little harsh and unwarranted. Good luck on the job search though. It's for the best, you wouldn't want to work where those types of judgments are made.

For real, I wouldn't want to work with people like that. There's no reason at all to send such a rude e-mail.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby ilovesf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:32 pm

piccolittle wrote:Offer today! Sent out my application on Dec 1 to a contact at my old company, and after over a month with not even a response, got invited to join their IP group for the summer! YAAAAAY! Still not sure if I'm going to take it though...

Awesome, congrats! How long do you have to consider their offer?

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby NYC Law » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:32 pm

ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.


What have you been sending? I thought it was just resume and cover letter but I've been second guessing that.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby piccolittle » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:33 pm

Guchster wrote: It's for the best, you wouldn't want to work where those types of judgments are made.

Definitely. They sound like assholes :/

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby ilovesf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:35 pm

NYC Law wrote:
ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.


What have you been sending? I thought it was just resume and cover letter but I've been second guessing that.

Hastings told me to send everything, so I sent cover letter, resume, references, writing sample and now that I have my grades, my unofficial transcript. People on here didn't really seem to be doing that, but I just decided to go with the word of my school.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby piccolittle » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:37 pm

ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.

Awesome - this is definitely the first of many for you!!!! :D Can't wait to see what amazing options you end up with!

ilovesf wrote:
piccolittle wrote:Offer today! Sent out my application on Dec 1 to a contact at my old company, and after over a month with not even a response, got invited to join their IP group for the summer! YAAAAAY! Still not sure if I'm going to take it though...

Awesome, congrats! How long do you have to consider their offer?

It was actually a little awkward, as they called and pretty much assumed I was joining them... at the end of the conversation I had to be like "actually, I'm 99.5% sure I'm coming but..." and asked for a week to consider. Informed my top two other choices, and should have an answer by around Monday.

I totally don't deserve this - I feel way too lucky!

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Lasers » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:44 pm

ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.

did you send in your apps online?

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:45 pm

NYC Law wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.


Is that real? holy shit. They don't play around in Brooklyn.

Did you apply to Brooklyn A? I don't think they are as intense. I had an interview with them where they just explained the position and did not ask me any questions about myself.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby ilovesf » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:46 pm

Lasers wrote:
ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.

did you send in your apps online?

I only sent them online to the 2 that requested electronic apps. I applied to the rest of them via paper app. The judge that contacted me was from one of the paper apps.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:53 pm

Anyone has status updates on JIOP? I initiated the application in December and updated with grades the day after they came out. Haven't heard anything yet :(

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby delusional » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Just got a rejection from South Brooklyn Legal Services. This seemed unnecessarily harsh to me.

I have circulated your materials among the supervisors in this office who do the interviews for summer jobs. None expressed an interest in interviewing you. I'm pretty sure that this is because there is no visible public interest connection in your materials, either in the form of experience or an expression of strong enthusiasm for the work. You might want to take this into account in your future efforts. Good luck.

I worked in government for three years, fund-raised full time for two different charities, and tutored high school students. Just an FYI for anyone else who may be interested in what it apparently takes to get a job there.

Holy ****. Why would someone have the need to be offensive when a simple "we have many applicants to choose from" would do? What a sad little life this person must have. And what kind of fool do you have to be to think you're doing mankind a favor by offering legal services when you can't even write a civil email to a stranger?

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby delusional » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:36 pm

BTW, funny story that maybe happened to some of you also. I sent out a bunch of mass mails, and naturally, my foremost concern was that I would mistakenly leave Firm A in a cover letter that ended up going to Firm B.
Anyway, about ten minutes after the emails went out, I get a response from someone that they're not hiring 1Ls. I opened the email to see the details, and I saw that it was from Wachtell* but the email it was responding to, below it, said very clearly "I am inquiring about summer employment at Cravath*". I totally freaked out - did I send all the emails with the wrong firm information? With my heart in my throat, I checked my list of cover letters, and each one had the firm names that matched the document title. I checked the spreadsheet I was working off, and the emails were very clearly from the correct firms. So where could I have screwed up?

Finally I realized - I had CC'd myself on one of the first emails I sent, just to make sure the attachment opened correctly. Then, I sent out all the emails with the same subject line. Because Gmail saw that the original one that I sent myself had the subject line "1L summer job", it automatically paired it with the incoming response email that said "re:1L summer job". Once I figured it out, it was funny in retrospect.
*names have been changed
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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby Lasers » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:42 pm

ilovesf wrote:
Lasers wrote:
ilovesf wrote:I sent out my federal district applications on Thursday, and I got my first interview request today from a federal district judge! :D To anyone who thinks that most judges are done looking, I guess they are at least still interviewing people.

did you send in your apps online?

I only sent them online to the 2 that requested electronic apps. I applied to the rest of them via paper app. The judge that contacted me was from one of the paper apps.

thanks!

damn, that means i finally have to get some thicker/nicer paper to print my resume/cover letters on...the apps i sent previously were all through the internet.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby r6_philly » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Guchster wrote:
Yeah, that's a little harsh and unwarranted. Good luck on the job search though. It's for the best, you wouldn't want to work where those types of judgments are made.


Maybe because I am old and have been in business for a while, I actually think that's really helpful. Had I received such a response I would write them back thanking them and resubmit a new app.

Think of it this way, it's like being rejected by a school, but they told you why they are doing it (for example they tell you to retake because your LSAT is too low). It is much better than the plain vanilla letter saying "Sorry we can't hire you, best of luck in your future endeavors." They are basically telling you how to apply to a PI org.

BK keeping it real as always.

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Re: The Official 1L Summer Employment Thread - 2012 Edition

Postby piccolittle » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:35 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Guchster wrote:
Yeah, that's a little harsh and unwarranted. Good luck on the job search though. It's for the best, you wouldn't want to work where those types of judgments are made.


Maybe because I am old and have been in business for a while, I actually think that's really helpful. Had I received such a response I would write them back thanking them and resubmit a new app.

Think of it this way, it's like being rejected by a school, but they told you why they are doing it (for example they tell you to retake because your LSAT is too low). It is much better than the plain vanilla letter saying "Sorry we can't hire you, best of luck in your future endeavors." They are basically telling you how to apply to a PI org.

BK keeping it real as always.


It may be helpful, but I guess tone doesn't carry well over email. What I got from it was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZ ... re=related




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