2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:55 pm

Kirkland ny class numbers are out.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:59 pm

S&C: 20 Harvard, 14 Yale, 13 Columbia, 8 NYU
Cleary: 26 Harvard, 20 Columbia, 17 NYU

Both numbers are via friends so I can't 100% confirm this data nor provide additional info on other schools. Hopefully someone who is summering at these firms will come along and fill out the rest.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby de5igual » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:58 pm

thexfactor wrote:I'm shocked at the lack of T2 schools. I thought people who were top 5% at T2s had a good chance for biglaw ny or other v100.


most of the data so far is really V10 (and to a much lesser extent) V50 centric. I'm sure if the entire NLJ250 were shown, in secondary markets especially, the tippity top of T2s would be more prevalent.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby desertlaw » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:00 pm

I imagine there are a good amount of us at satellite offices that have only 5-10 SA's that don't feel comfortable possibly outing themselves about the numbers. Maybe I'm just paranoid though.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby keg411 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:28 pm

desertlaw wrote:I imagine there are a good amount of us at satellite offices that have only 5-10 SA's that don't feel comfortable possibly outing themselves about the numbers. Maybe I'm just paranoid though.


Some firms also haven't sent info yet.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:40 am

What's Kirkland's numbers? I'm curious.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:50 am

shadow. wrote:People have posted information on 17 firms thus far in this thread. The following data summarize this information, starting with STB and ending with Frost Todd Brown.

I'll update these summaries as more information comes into this thread.

(Yes, I am a 2L with an offer and 0 motivation to study.)


Does this take into account Kirkland-Chicago's numbers?

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby jeeptiger09 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:54 am

desertlaw wrote:I imagine there are a good amount of us at satellite offices that have only 5-10 SA's that don't feel comfortable possibly outing themselves about the numbers. Maybe I'm just paranoid though.


Or secondary markets. Also paranoid.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby shadow. » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:53 am

Anonymous User wrote:
shadow. wrote:People have posted information on 17 firms thus far in this thread. The following data summarize this information, starting with STB and ending with Frost Todd Brown.

I'll update these summaries as more information comes into this thread.

(Yes, I am a 2L with an offer and 0 motivation to study.)


Does this take into account Kirkland-Chicago's numbers?


No. No Kirkland numbers have been posted in this thread. The chart only covers what has been posted in this thread up to Frost Todd Brown.

If people are nervous about posting information in the thread, they can PM me and I can update the chart accordingly.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:46 am

shadow. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
shadow. wrote:People have posted information on 17 firms thus far in this thread. The following data summarize this information, starting with STB and ending with Frost Todd Brown.

I'll update these summaries as more information comes into this thread.

(Yes, I am a 2L with an offer and 0 motivation to study.)


Does this take into account Kirkland-Chicago's numbers?


No. No Kirkland numbers have been posted in this thread. The chart only covers what has been posted in this thread up to Frost Todd Brown.

If people are nervous about posting information in the thread, they can PM me and I can update the chart accordingly.


viewtopic.php?f=23&t=171204

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby de5igual » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:43 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
shadow. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
shadow. wrote:People have posted information on 17 firms thus far in this thread. The following data summarize this information, starting with STB and ending with Frost Todd Brown.

I'll update these summaries as more information comes into this thread.

(Yes, I am a 2L with an offer and 0 motivation to study.)


Does this take into account Kirkland-Chicago's numbers?


No. No Kirkland numbers have been posted in this thread. The chart only covers what has been posted in this thread up to Frost Todd Brown.

If people are nervous about posting information in the thread, they can PM me and I can update the chart accordingly.


viewtopic.php?f=23&t=171204


isn't that list incomplete? i think the op even said so.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:58 pm

f0bolous wrote:isn't that list incomplete? i think the op even said so.


Maybe it is. That's what K&E sent out though. Kind of weird for them to be sending out incomplete information.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:51 pm

I think you're still missing large numbers in that list. A quick count gets me to over 100 SAs from HLS.

shadow. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
shadow. wrote:People have posted information on 17 firms thus far in this thread. The following data summarize this information, starting with STB and ending with Frost Todd Brown.

I'll update these summaries as more information comes into this thread.

(Yes, I am a 2L with an offer and 0 motivation to study.)


Does this take into account Kirkland-Chicago's numbers?


No. No Kirkland numbers have been posted in this thread. The chart only covers what has been posted in this thread up to Frost Todd Brown.

If people are nervous about posting information in the thread, they can PM me and I can update the chart accordingly.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:18 am

those are just K-E Chicago. NY wasn't sent out until recently.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Cravath

Columbia 18
Harvard 18
NYU 13
Yale 10
Cornell 5
Northwestern 3
Fordham 2
Texas 2
Chicago 1
Duke 1
Georgetown 1
Howard 1
Michigan 1
Osgoode 1
Penn 1
Stanford 1
WUSTL 1

TOTAL: 80


You left out 1 Berkeley and 1 Virginia. It's 82.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:16 pm

Kasowitz Benson (NY)

17 total:

GULC x3
NYU x2
Cardozo x2
Columbia
Michigan
Penn
Virginia
Cornell
Emory
Washington & Lee
Fordham
Unknown x2

Edited to reflect updates.
Last edited by Anonymous User on Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Kirkland NY

NYU-7
GULC-10
Columbia-5
Penn-3
Fordham-4
Emory-4
NW-4
Chicago-2
Harvard-2
Yale-1
Berkeley-1
Cardozo-1
Brooklyn-1
Illinois-1
Cornell-1
Wake Forest-2
UVA-2

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland NY

NYU-7
GULC-10
Columbia-5
Penn-3
Fordham-4
Emory-4
NW-4
Chicago-2
Harvard-2
Yale-1
Berkeley-1
Cardozo-1
Brooklyn-1
Illinois-1
Cornell-1
Wake Forest-2
UVA-2


Pretty freakin TTT.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:59 pm

Julio_El_Chavo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland NY

NYU-7
GULC-10
Columbia-5
Penn-3
Fordham-4
Emory-4
NW-4
Chicago-2
Harvard-2
Yale-1
Berkeley-1
Cardozo-1
Brooklyn-1
Illinois-1
Cornell-1
Wake Forest-2
UVA-2


Pretty freakin TTT.


Kirkland NY has always had significantly lower standards than big daddy in Chicago. I don't think this is anything out of the ordinary for them. It's kind of funny to think that it's technically a V10. Yet another reason why the Vault rankings lose a lot of significance when dealing with satellite offices.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby ahnhub » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:12 pm

why is it TTT?

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:24 pm

ahnhub wrote:why is it TTT?


I'm guessing because of the pretty mediocre representation from HYSCCN. Maybe the fact that only 55 percent of their summers come from the T13 (in comparison, a lot of the top NYC firms that have been posted in this thread are usually in the 80–90 percent range in that regard).

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby ahnhub » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:44 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
ahnhub wrote:why is it TTT?


I'm guessing because of the pretty mediocre representation from HYSCCN. Maybe the fact that only 55 percent of their summers come from the T13 (in comparison, a lot of the top NYC firms that have been posted in this thread are usually in the 80–90 percent range in that regard).


Hahaha--well if you count GULC 75% came from T-14. GULC-trolling, delivered as cool as the other side of the pillow.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby 005618502 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:53 pm

ahnhub wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
ahnhub wrote:why is it TTT?


I'm guessing because of the pretty mediocre representation from HYSCCN. Maybe the fact that only 55 percent of their summers come from the T13 (in comparison, a lot of the top NYC firms that have been posted in this thread are usually in the 80–90 percent range in that regard).


Hahaha--well if you count GULC 75% came from T-14. GULC-trolling, delivered as cool as the other side of the pillow.


Haha seriously

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby Helmholtz » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:53 pm

ahnhub wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
ahnhub wrote:why is it TTT?


I'm guessing because of the pretty mediocre representation from HYSCCN. Maybe the fact that only 55 percent of their summers come from the T13 (in comparison, a lot of the top NYC firms that have been posted in this thread are usually in the 80–90 percent range in that regard).


Hahaha--well if you count GULC 75% came from T-14. GULC-trolling, delivered as cool as the other side of the pillow.


Well, if we count GULC, then most elite NYC firms in this thread have closer to 90 percent. It doesn't really matter though. Maybe Kirkland places more emphasis on grades than prestige of school. Maybe Kirkland was doing a favor to the legal community by taking in a few of the 650 C/O 2013 GULC students. I don't know. It doesn't really matter one way or the other. I was more just using the term "T13" to clearly denote that I was not including either of the schools tied at 14th.

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Re: 2012 Class Sizes, School Distributions, other useful data

Postby bdubs » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:08 pm

Potentially stupid question from a 1L: Why are all of the reports ITT only for NY offices? Do the other offices keep their associate classes a closely guarded secret, or do you all only care about NYC?




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