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SupraVln180
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Help with an e-mail.

Postby SupraVln180 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:05 pm

I have been e-mailing someone who is "of counsel" at a mid-law firm in NYC, who went to my undergrad. He always mentions in the e-mails anytime I need help to just ask. I'm a 1L at a T25 right now, and want to use him so he could pass my resume along to a hiring partner so I have a snowballs chance of possibly getting an interview there for 1L summer. How do I go about asking him this in an e-mail? I don't want to sound impolite or overstep any boundaries.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby zomginternets » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:59 pm

Ask him how he's doing, and give a short blurb about how much law school is killing you right now. Then tell him that you are really interested in their summer program, ask whether they take 1Ls, and if so who you should send your resume to (and maybe say something like you're wondering what's the best way to get your resume noticed). If he's down to help you out, he'll offer to pass your resume along to the hiring partner. If he's not, he'll direct you to the recruiting contact.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby 03121202698008 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:01 pm

zomginternets wrote:Ask him how he's doing, and give a short blurb about how much law school is killing you right now. Then tell him that you are really interested in their summer program, ask whether they take 1Ls, and if so who you should send your resume to (and maybe say something like you're wondering what's the best way to get your resume noticed). If he's down to help you out, he'll offer to pass your resume along to the hiring partner. If he's not, he'll direct you to the recruiting contact.


This. They know the deal and will offer if they plan to help. I e-mailed an alumni from my LS and she flat out asked if I wanted her to pass it along.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby IAFG » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:56 pm

I'd probably frame it as:

I'm looking at 1L summer jobs, and I think I'd like exposure to X, Y & Z. Most 1Ls seem to be getting judicial externships or whatever, but I was wondering what else is out there. I'd love to work at a firm like yours (and sent in an application already) or get exposure in other ways, like working in-house. Are there any places you can think of that would give me experience with X, Y & Z?

I would apply through the normal channel (recruiting person) and just let your contact know you've already done that. If they want to vouch for you, they can. It also shows you're proactive. Also if you end up needing help during 2L, you won't feel like you "used up" this resource.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby sebastian0622 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:05 am

IAFG wrote:I'd probably frame it as:

I'm looking at 1L summer jobs, and I think I'd like exposure to X, Y & Z. Most 1Ls seem to be getting judicial externships or whatever, but I was wondering what else is out there. I'd love to work at a firm like yours (and sent in an application already) or get exposure in other ways, like working in-house. Are there any places you can think of that would give me experience with X, Y & Z?

I would apply through the normal channel (recruiting person) and just let your contact know you've already done that. If they want to vouch for you, they can. It also shows you're proactive. Also if you end up needing help during 2L, you won't feel like you "used up" this resource.


I'm not saying this is a bad answer, but it's not what I'd do. I feel it comes across somewhat passive-aggressive and indecisive, like "I want to work for a firm like yours...ok, ok, I want to work for your firm but don't have the balls to say it."

I'd probably recall whatever past discussion you had / whatever you've talked about and just let him know fairly directly and somewhat informally that you are looking. Keep it simple and brief. Something like:

"I enjoyed meeting with you a few weeks ago and talking about rodeo clowns (or "I've enjoyed our email discussion about rode clowns."). I'm looking for a place to work over the summer and would like to check in with your firm to see if you have any employment programs for 1L's. Also, I am interested in hearing any other suggestions you may have for me while I try to find an opportunity to get some good legal experience. I hope all is well, and good luck to your daughter on her upcoming porn audition that you told me about."

or whatever. I'm a little direct, but it has worked for me.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby IAFG » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:11 am

The reason I wouldn't expressly ask my contact to "forward my resume" or whatever is because if they don't have the juice to get me hired, they are just going to feel bad and associate that with me. If they do, and they want to vouch for me, they will. I wasn't recommending against being direct about what you want, just against asking for that specific favor.

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Re: Help with an e-mail.

Postby AP-375 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:25 pm

I'd just email and say, "Hey, I'm applying to your firm's 1L program, and wanted to make sure you don't mind that I mention our conversation in my cover letter. I'm sending my application as the firm requests, but wanted to know if you might have any additional advice."
-If they like you, they'll help you out.
-You're not actually asking for anything, so you can still hold out to ask for more direct assistance next summer.




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