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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby sgtgrumbles » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:09 am

I tried to look it up on google books but couldn't find it there, but look up Abbe Smith and Monroe Freedman's book Understanding Lawyers' Ethics on the "cruel trilemma."

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:04 pm

Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Borhas » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...


I think on the low end, like 33-40k based on reading random articles

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby jessuf » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:48 pm

Are Miami and Brooklyn not done? They're interviewing 3Ls at my school's job fair at the end of January.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby gdane » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:20 pm

Jessuf wrote:Are Miami and Brooklyn not done? They're interviewing 3Ls at my school's job fair at the end of January.

Miami is certainly not done. I know three people at my school that are still undergoing the interview process.

Dude, apply!

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby BarbellDreams » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:44 am

Borhas wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...


I think on the low end, like 33-40k based on reading random articles


I actually think its around 46-48K. The ADAs make 49.5K. Philly is weird in that the PD here is essentially a private group that gets government funding rather than a branch of the government. Its almost like a nonprofit.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:27 am

Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...

I know that they do vertical representation.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:49 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:For people with Philly interviews do you have ties? Not from the area but was gunning for them, no interview request. Also I know some had heard about scheduling firs rounds with LAS recently has anyone heard about scheduling a second round recently? Interviewed in October and was supposed to hear back early December but asked the scheduler about it two weeks ago and still said processing my application. Anyone who interviewed in NH in December hear back yet?

I just received a Philly interview--no ties.

I know that the LAS hiring committee is meeting on Jan. 7 and will notify people about 2nd and 3rd rounds after that date. I interviewed in December (first round).

I interviewed in NH in December. Received an offer.

I accepted a different offer and pulled out of all of the above processes. Hope that frees up some space! Good luck everyone!

When in December did you interview? Where did you finally accept?

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:53 pm

full reject from philly via email today, no interview offered. I emailed them about an exploding offer earlier and they rejected me a couple days after that deadline, that was my only communication with them.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:13 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...

I know that they do vertical representation.


I think they do horizontal representation

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...

I know that they do vertical representation.


I think they do horizontal representation

My understanding also is that they do horizontal representation. I know that they did horizontal as of 1.5 years ago.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby spleenworship » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:full reject from philly via email today, no interview offered. I emailed them about an exploding offer earlier and they rejected me a couple days after that deadline, that was my only communication with them.


Sorry to hear.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interview with Philadelphia. Anyone know starting salary? I did a quick google search and saw some articles indicating budget cuts and layoffs etc. Thoughts?

Additionally, I'd like any information about their office in general that people have to share...

I know that they do vertical representation.


I think they do horizontal representation

My understanding also is that they do horizontal representation. I know that they did horizontal as of 1.5 years ago.


i'd heard they do vertical, from an acquaintance at a PD's office in NY

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby FlanAl » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:33 pm

I think their website says they have separate preliminary hearing and trial divisions so it sounds like its horizontal. but it also seems that for major crimes they have a separate unit which may have a vertical set up.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:58 am

Besides NH who else has given offers?

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:03 am

so the email from philly was pretty intimidating about the panel interview process...any idea of how to prepare?

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:so the email from philly was pretty intimidating about the panel interview process...any idea of how to prepare?


This is relevant to my interests.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:15 pm

Have people who got the Philly email successfully set up an interview time? I left a voicemail and haven't heard back.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have people who got the Philly email successfully set up an interview time? I left a voicemail and haven't heard back.


I have.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby jessuf » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Does anyone know if Los Angeles PD pays its postbars?

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:34 pm

Jessuf wrote:Does anyone know if Los Angeles PD pays its postbars?


They don't and post bars aren't allowed to speak on the record: http://pd.co.la.ca.us/lawclerk.pdf

SD, Alameda, and Contra Costa are the only offices in California that pay their post-bars. (as far as I know).

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby lmr » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:42 pm

Have any california offices besides Contra Costa, Alameda, SF, and SD began interviewing for post-bars?

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Besides NH who else has given offers?

Palm Beach, however, their interview process is ongoing.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:For people with Philly interviews do you have ties? Not from the area but was gunning for them, no interview request. Also I know some had heard about scheduling firs rounds with LAS recently has anyone heard about scheduling a second round recently? Interviewed in October and was supposed to hear back early December but asked the scheduler about it two weeks ago and still said processing my application. Anyone who interviewed in NH in December hear back yet?

I just received a Philly interview--no ties.

I know that the LAS hiring committee is meeting on Jan. 7 and will notify people about 2nd and 3rd rounds after that date. I interviewed in December (first round).

I interviewed in NH in December. Received an offer.

I accepted a different offer and pulled out of all of the above processes. Hope that frees up some space! Good luck everyone!

When in December did you interview? Where did you finally accept?

I interviewed December 12th. I accepted an offer with Palm Beach.

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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:58 pm

Hi all, just weighing in to ease some concerns wrt LAS.
I did the early app last year, interviewed with a panel in Dec and had my Tina interview in Jan. Didn't hear anything until April, when they started checking my contacts. Got an offer on April 29, the day before the NY bar deadline. LAS hired two classes this past year - one in November 2013 and one in Feb 2014. They hired approx 80 ppl total.
Definitely stay in contact with the folks who interviewed you at the panel and try to make a great connection with one of them who will really pull for you when the decisions are made. Tina will call you with an offer. All other contact is via email.
Best of luck and hope to be working with some of you soon!! It's tough out there but let your passion shine through.




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