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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I hate to sound like a downer, but is anyone else starting to wonder if MD is even hiring anyone this time around? They recently posted an opening for an APD I for Lower Eastern Shore. I would've thought they'd choose someone from the people who applied for Fall Class. Just seems a little weird!
Maybe they didn't have any interest for the lower eastern shore so they are doing targeted recruitment?

Trying to think positive!

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:54 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I hate to sound like a downer, but is anyone else starting to wonder if MD is even hiring anyone this time around? They recently posted an opening for an APD I for Lower Eastern Shore. I would've thought they'd choose someone from the people who applied for Fall Class. Just seems a little weird!
Maybe they didn't have any interest for the lower eastern shore so they are doing targeted recruitment?

Trying to think positive!
^no longer feeling so positive :|

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:58 pm
by Anonymous User
Heard that Maryland is doing panel interviews. Can anyone confirm??

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:22 pm
by Anonymous User
I had a panel interview the week of 6/6, but haven't heard anything since. For those who have done panels in the past, did you do multiple interviews for different offices?

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:22 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I had a panel interview the week of 6/6, but haven't heard anything since. For those who have done panels in the past, did you do multiple interviews for different offices?
I didn't think that they did multiple panel interviews. Thanks for confirming though. Do you mind saying which office you interviewed with?

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:32 pm
by Anonymous User
Any offers coming out from Maryland?

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:45 pm
by ymmv88
Hey guys I have been a PD for just about a year now in a UBE state. My girlfriend recently started working at biglaw in NoVa and I am trying to avoid taking another bar exam. Other than PDS, what indigent defense counsel outfits are there in DC? I would prefer to continue doing criminal trial work but open to just about anything involving litigation for indigent clients.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:19 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I hate to sound like a downer, but is anyone else starting to wonder if MD is even hiring anyone this time around? They recently posted an opening for an APD I for Lower Eastern Shore. I would've thought they'd choose someone from the people who applied for Fall Class. Just seems a little weird!
There's a posting now specifically for Western Maryland as well. :|

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:45 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Any offers coming out from Maryland?
Bump. Any movement with Maryland??

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:48 am
by Borhas
ymmv88 wrote:Hey guys I have been a PD for just about a year now in a UBE state. My girlfriend recently started working at biglaw in NoVa and I am trying to avoid taking another bar exam. Other than PDS, what indigent defense counsel outfits are there in DC? I would prefer to continue doing criminal trial work but open to just about anything involving litigation for indigent clients.
PDS does all juvie and adult felonies, so I think there are court appointed attorneys for misdemeanors but those guys are probably the local criminal defense bar which may not be easy to break into

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:42 am
by Anonymous User
Borhas wrote:
ymmv88 wrote:Hey guys I have been a PD for just about a year now in a UBE state. My girlfriend recently started working at biglaw in NoVa and I am trying to avoid taking another bar exam. Other than PDS, what indigent defense counsel outfits are there in DC? I would prefer to continue doing criminal trial work but open to just about anything involving litigation for indigent clients.
PDS does all juvie and adult felonies, so I think there are court appointed attorneys for misdemeanors but those guys are probably the local criminal defense bar which may not be easy to break into
Yep to Borhas. For civil lit on behalf of indigent clients in DC --> Legal Aid Society of the District of Columbia. They are currently hiring staff attorneys.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:10 pm
by Anonymous User
Hate to beat a dead horse, but any Maryland updates? :roll:

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Hate to beat a dead horse, but any Maryland updates? :roll:
I had my first interview with MD today. 4 people sat in and I sounded like an idiot. Don't lose hope just yet.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:56 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hate to beat a dead horse, but any Maryland updates? :roll:
I had my first interview with MD today. 4 people sat in and I sounded like an idiot. Don't lose hope just yet.
Was this a screener since it your first interview? Can you say where the interviewers were from (Balt city, county, aa county, etc)?

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:55 pm
by Anonymous User
I guess it was a screener. The attorneys were from the eastern shore.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Oh cool. Maybe they skipped the screener for you, because with four people, that definitely sounds like a panel interview. Is that where you want to be?

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:46 am
by Anonymous User
I literally give up with MD.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:16 am
by Tanicius
Anonymous User wrote:I literally give up with MD.
Yeah, this is the quintessential "We don't know how to hire people" behavior I learned to loathe when applying to PD jobs. It's nit hard to track your applicants and communicate with them when you've decided whether they have a shot or not.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:25 am
by Anonymous User
Tanicius wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I literally give up with MD.
Yeah, this is the quintessential "We don't know how to hire people" behavior I learned to loathe when applying to PD jobs. It's nit hard to track your applicants and communicate with them when you've decided whether they have a shot or not.
Right. At this point I'm just expecting to get a random letter some time in October saying I haven't been hired as if that isn't already abundantly clear -_-

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:33 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Oh cool. Maybe they skipped the screener for you, because with four people, that definitely sounds like a panel interview. Is that where you want to be?
Yea, I wouldn't mind moving out there, but honestly I'm not thinking they are calling back. I def was not expecting to walk in and have Johanna, Paul Dewolfe, and 2 other attorneys on a screener but who knows. I've heard so many stories now from people going through 3 and 4 interviews and then never hearing from them again. I also heard that the spring class was mostly laterals and no new attorneys but I have no way of confirming if that's true.

Also heard that interviews are still ongoing for fall class (again no way to confirm if true). I would hope that if start date is end of Aug, offers would be made by now, or very soon, but what do I know

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Tanicius wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I literally give up with MD.
Yeah, this is the quintessential "We don't know how to hire people" behavior I learned to loathe when applying to PD jobs. It's nit hard to track your applicants and communicate with them when you've decided whether they have a shot or not.
Right. At this point I'm just expecting to get a random letter some time in October saying I haven't been hired as if that isn't already abundantly clear -_-

I'm expecting the same. I don't understand, if you won't respond to follow-ups the least you can do is send an automated e-mail rejection to people. Hell, have an intern do it. Have a heart and put us out of our misary as soon as possible, sheesh.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Tanicius wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I literally give up with MD.
Yeah, this is the quintessential "We don't know how to hire people" behavior I learned to loathe when applying to PD jobs. It's nit hard to track your applicants and communicate with them when you've decided whether they have a shot or not.
Right. At this point I'm just expecting to get a random letter some time in October saying I haven't been hired as if that isn't already abundantly clear -_-

I'm expecting the same. I don't understand, if you won't respond to follow-ups the least you can do is send an automated e-mail rejection to people. Hell, have an intern do it. Have a heart and put us out of our misary as soon as possible, sheesh.
This isn't my first time applying so I've learned to not take it personally anymore.... However, it's hard not to feel like submitting an application is simply a repetitive formality, with the hope that maybe one of these cycles you might fall on the right side of whatever arbitrary hiring equation they've got going on. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take though, right? :roll:

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:48 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Tanicius wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I literally give up with MD.
Yeah, this is the quintessential "We don't know how to hire people" behavior I learned to loathe when applying to PD jobs. It's nit hard to track your applicants and communicate with them when you've decided whether they have a shot or not.
Right. At this point I'm just expecting to get a random letter some time in October saying I haven't been hired as if that isn't already abundantly clear -_-

I'm expecting the same. I don't understand, if you won't respond to follow-ups the least you can do is send an automated e-mail rejection to people. Hell, have an intern do it. Have a heart and put us out of our misary as soon as possible, sheesh.
Yep.

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:44 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:also heard that the spring class was mostly laterals and no new attorneys but I have no way of confirming if that's true.
If that's what they are looking for, then why even go through this process? If true, that's disheartening.

Any communication from them at all would be helpful. At least then, I'd know for sure one way or the other!

Re: 3L Public Defender Applications

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:42 am
by Anonymous User
Maybe today will be the day that someone hears back from MD? :lol: