What does "biglaw" mean to you?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby IAFG » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:33 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:I think LA/west coast in general is being neglected a bit here. There are nice-ish areas downtown now, and lots of firms are in West L.A., which is super nice and not too expensive (you can work in West Hollywood and live in Westwood).

I know a bunch of associates (at Gibson Dunn) who are doing this and they tell me rent is not bad at all. And of course there's the weather and the culture and such.


Is "LA culture" being used here as a plus or minus?

I can't imagine anyone with any bit of cultural exposure endorsing the culture in LA. Maybe someone so white they don't even like Thai food?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Glock » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:46 pm

Curious1 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Glock wrote:Any 10+ shop that provides market pay or close to market pay. Obviously there are better and worse jobs inside biglaw. The point is that you are making the $ and busting your ass- I advocate a pretty low bar for a "biglaw" definition.

Making 160k at a V25 in NYC is substantially similar to making 115k at Snell and Wilmer Phoenix, except 115k in Phoenix has significantly higher purchasing power than 160k in NYC. The hours are long, the work is hard, the pay is pretty good. I'd call both biglaw, but obviously you can prestigewhore inside it.

Haha so to be biglaw, the work must be hard and the hours must be long?


No, the pay must be good.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:47 pm

Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Grizz » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:58 pm

mrloblaw wrote:Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

Didn't break 170.

U mad?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:00 pm

Grizz wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

Didn't break 170.

U mad?


So true. I converted my tiny pink 152 LSAT into a biglaw gig: TT waitlist, top 10% 1L, xfer to way better school, biglawl offers. I AM THE 1%. :lol:

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:00 pm

Grizz wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

Didn't break 170.

U mad?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Grizz » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:01 pm

mrloblaw wrote:
Grizz wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

Didn't break 170.

U mad?

1al·most
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Still, u mad?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby mrloblaw » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:40 pm

Grizz wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:
Grizz wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:Biglaw (n): Subset of legal jobs with salaries which make actually earning a law degree worthwhile, for which you will almost certainly never be competitive if you do not break 170 on the LSAT.

Didn't break 170.

U mad?

1al·most
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Still, u mad?


Err...no. But gold star for beating the odds, Chief:

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Maybe they'll make a movie out of your heroics.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby mesomedes » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:13 am

Grizz wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Grizz wrote:
bk1 wrote:Top firms in a given market. Generally means they pay market or close to it (e.g. I would consider a firm that pays $145k in Chicago to still be biglaw).


Here's something interesting. Broad & Cassel Orlando and GrayRobinson Orlando are NLJ250, yes, but neither is actually the most preftigiouf firm in Orlando (or get the best work). Lowndes is, and they are NOT NLJ250.


Clarification: Lowndes may be the most prestigious firm BASED in Orlando, but not the most prestigious firm with an office in Orlando.

In Orlando, it's tops, better than the biglawl branch offices.

Also nice anon, pussy.


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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby 09042014 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:35 am

IAFG wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:I think LA/west coast in general is being neglected a bit here. There are nice-ish areas downtown now, and lots of firms are in West L.A., which is super nice and not too expensive (you can work in West Hollywood and live in Westwood).

I know a bunch of associates (at Gibson Dunn) who are doing this and they tell me rent is not bad at all. And of course there's the weather and the culture and such.


Is "LA culture" being used here as a plus or minus?

I can't imagine anyone with any bit of cultural exposure endorsing the culture in LA. Maybe someone so white they don't even like Thai food?


Extreme anti LTK trolling.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby MarkRenton » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:27 am

Desert Fox wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:I think LA/west coast in general is being neglected a bit here. There are nice-ish areas downtown now, and lots of firms are in West L.A., which is super nice and not too expensive (you can work in West Hollywood and live in Westwood).

I know a bunch of associates (at Gibson Dunn) who are doing this and they tell me rent is not bad at all. And of course there's the weather and the culture and such.


Is "LA culture" being used here as a plus or minus?

I can't imagine anyone with any bit of cultural exposure endorsing the culture in LA. Maybe someone so white they don't even like Thai food?


Extreme anti LTK trolling.


:lol:

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Veyron » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:57 am

All firms that pay the "market" rate in a given market + all V100 firms

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby c3pO4 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:59 am

New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby romothesavior » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:23 am

Generally I think of biglaw as the top 200 or so NLJ 250 firms that pay 6-figures. It's such a fluid distinction, so hard to pin down a definition.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby IAFG » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:07 pm

c3pO4 wrote:New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

Who the fuck hasn't already bought a car at some point before they get to law school?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby c3pO4 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:11 pm

IAFG wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

Who the fuck hasn't already bought a car at some point before they get to law school?


Obvi I mean first nice car. Law students drive beat up old things but often dream of buying their first "real" car after they get a job. Biglaw gives that option.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby rayiner » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:11 pm

c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

Who the fuck hasn't already bought a car at some point before they get to law school?


Obvi I mean first nice car. Law students drive beat up old things but often dream of buying their first "real" car after they get a job. Biglaw gives that option.


A big lawyer with student loans cannot afford to pay $1600/month for a car.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:50 pm

WLRK or bust.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Grizz » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:12 pm

Julio_El_Chavo wrote:WLRK or bust.

Ironic because WLRK has like a little over 200ish lawyers?

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby MC Southstar » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:21 pm

Doing something you don't really want to be doing.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:28 pm

MC Southstar wrote:Doing something you don't really want to be doing.


(person who didn't get biglaw)

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby MC Southstar » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:35 pm

Julio_El_Chavo wrote:
MC Southstar wrote:Doing something you don't really want to be doing.


(person who didn't get biglaw)


Incorrect.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:44 pm

MC Southstar wrote:
Julio_El_Chavo wrote:
MC Southstar wrote:Doing something you don't really want to be doing.


(person who didn't get biglaw)


Incorrect.


Oh, well then pardon me.

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby c3pO4 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:04 pm

rayiner wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

Who the fuck hasn't already bought a car at some point before they get to law school?


Obvi I mean first nice car. Law students drive beat up old things but often dream of buying their first "real" car after they get a job. Biglaw gives that option.


A big lawyer with student loans cannot afford to pay $1600/month for a car.


The model S is only 49k. Pay off ur loans in 3 years and then drive it. NBD

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Re: What does "biglaw" mean to you?

Postby Renzo » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:20 pm

rayiner wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:New definition: Biglaw means you can buy the Tesla Model S as your first car. HTH.

Who the fuck hasn't already bought a car at some point before they get to law school?


Obvi I mean first nice car. Law students drive beat up old things but often dream of buying their first "real" car after they get a job. Biglaw gives that option.


A big lawyer with student loans cannot afford to pay $1600/month for a car.


Let's also remember that the majority of them are in NYC, where no one can afford to park a car, even if you could afford the payments and insurance.




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