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Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:14 pm
by Anonymous User
Is there a better firm for a young litigator?

I'm a 3L with a decent COA 2/9/7 clerkship next year. What does it take to get a job at this place? Which is the best office?

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:39 pm
by Anonymous User
one of the toughest firms to get a job at...don't waste your time with them unless your SCOTUS material

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:47 pm
by JusticeHarlan
Anonymous User wrote:Is there a better firm for a young litigator?
IBQR

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:54 pm
by SleekFire
JusticeHarlan wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Is there a better firm for a young litigator?
IBQR

IBQR?

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:59 pm
by TheFriendlyBarber
SleekFire wrote:
JusticeHarlan wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Is there a better firm for a young litigator?
IBQR

IBQR?
In Before Qaddafi's Resurrection?

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:04 pm
by SleekFire
lmao. But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

He uses a "G," lol. Although I have seen a "K." Not "Q." :-)

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:06 pm
by mrloblaw
SleekFire wrote:lmao. But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

He uses a "G," lol. Although I have seen a "K." Not "Q." :-)
Now that he's dead, seriously Western World, let's agree on how to transliterate his name.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:28 pm
by TheFriendlyBarber
SleekFire wrote:lmao. But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

He uses a "G," lol. Although I have seen a "K." Not "Q." :-)
True, true, but phonetically it's‎ Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī

and also:

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-2 ... -says.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/world ... .html?_r=1

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:06 pm
by SleekFire
TheFriendlyBarber wrote:
SleekFire wrote:lmao. But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

He uses a "G," lol. Although I have seen a "K." Not "Q." :-)
True, true, but phonetically it's‎ Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī

and also:

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-2 ... -says.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/world ... .html?_r=1
Touche' :-)

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:07 pm
by Helmholtz
All I wanted to say is that the first two posts are by the exact same user.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:17 pm
by Snooker
Susman will usually recruit from the very top of the class, and tends to look at more than just numbers (but they want high numbers, too). The full range of skills, personality traits, and attributes is highly important to them. In addition, they have a tradition of hiring people who were on editorial boards of well-known journals, especially those in leadership position (EIC, ME, etc.), and require you to have a clerkship lined up before you can be taken on full-time. Susman tends to be very comprehensive when looking at applicants. I am not sure if the SCOTUS claim is accurate, since they tend to get the very best well-rounded litigators they can. I came away with the impression that it's not the firm that will simply pick the highest GPA in front of them, but rather will pick someone they know will be a top litigator (and not just a good memo-drafter). Think all-star drafts, not test-taking nerds.

The summer program (in the past at least) is 4 weeks; a typical summer will be 6 weeks with one firm, 4 weeks with Susman, and the rest of your summer on editorial board work.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:23 pm
by stratocophic
Helmholtz wrote:All I wanted to say is that the first two posts are by the exact same user.
"your SCOTUS material"

DING

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:37 pm
by Anonymous User
Helmholtz wrote:All I wanted to say is that the first two posts are by the exact same user.
:D :D :D Hilarious/unnecessary Susman trolling on behalf of OP.

OP also overstated the SCOTUS thing. I know two people who work there. They certainly have great credentials, but neither were near "SCOTUS material." They had great federal clerkships, but not with feeder type judges.

Susman is great, but so are Bartlit Beck, Kellogg Huber, Keker. Munger as well. I don't think there's a clear "best place" to be a young litigator.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:03 am
by Anonymous User
Susman is awesome, but it's not all about grades. People top 5% at HYS won't get a CB while folks barely top third will. They only take 6-8 summers a year; grades are important but not dispositive. They can be picky. And they are.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:20 am
by IAFG
Helmholtz wrote:All I wanted to say is that the first two posts are by the exact same user.
loool

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:22 am
by Curious1
How come they aren't on Vault?

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:58 am
by Grizz
Curious1 wrote:How come they aren't on Vault?
You are the most annoying 0L in the employment forum.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:59 am
by Blessedassurance
Grizz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:How come they aren't on Vault?
You are the most annoying 0L in the employment forum general.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:59 am
by Curious1
Grizz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:How come they aren't on Vault?
You are the most annoying 0L in the employment forum.
You are the most annoying poster on the entire forum.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:14 am
by Anonymous User
Getting Susman is very, very hard. The initial grade threshold isn't that high. If you can get a WLRK callback, you have necessary grades to get a Susman callback. However, they take barely anyone, and my perception has been that you basically need to have a wilddog personality factor to get a job-- think The Office's James Spader-boss-type personality. Also, SAing does not mean you are getting a job my any means, I think they take less than 1/2 of the clerks they bring in.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:02 am
by JusticeHarlan
Curious1 wrote:
Grizz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:How come they aren't on Vault?
You are the most annoying 0L in the employment forum.
You are the most annoying poster on the entire forum.
I know, right? I thought I could at least count on Grizz for a QR, but nope, he left me hanging.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:56 am
by Grizz
JusticeHarlan wrote:
Curious1 wrote:
Grizz wrote:
Curious1 wrote:How come they aren't on Vault?
You are the most annoying 0L in the employment forum.
You are the most annoying poster on the entire forum.
I know, right? I thought I could at least count on Grizz for a QR, but nope, he left me hanging.
I didn't get it :oops:

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:47 pm
by Anonymous User
I like how people on these threads assume those hired by S+G must be uber type-A or "wilddog" personalities. These people obviously have not met anyone hired by S+G.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:55 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:I like how people on these threads assume those hired by S+G must be uber type-A or "wilddog" personalities. These people obviously have not met anyone hired by S+G.
+1. I know a Susman SA and he/she is definitely not a Type A person. He/she has top grades and is well spoken, but not very social or aggressive.

Re: Susman Godfrey

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:32 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I like how people on these threads assume those hired by S+G must be uber type-A or "wilddog" personalities. These people obviously have not met anyone hired by S+G.
+1. I know a Susman SA and he/she is definitely not a Type A person. He/she has top grades and is well spoken, but not very social or aggressive.
what school?