I think it's more important that the jury identifies with the lawyer than that they want to shag him. How many people in the jury box do you think look like supermodels?shmoo597 wrote:You're completely wrong. Trial lawyers are very conscious of how they look and how they appear. Their role is to persuade, and a huge part of that is connecting with the jury, and a huge part of that is looking like someone the jury wants to connect with. That's why trial lawyers pay such close attention to their grooming, wardrobe, style, gestures, tone of voice, and general appearance. They can't control their height, but that doesn't mean that height is irrelevant to how a jury perceives them. If tall people are more successful in life generally (and they are), my instinct is that the effect is exaggerated in a courtroom where appearance is so central to winning.blowhard wrote: I agree that in general taller people make more money. I still don't think it translates enough to have an impact. However, I highly disagree that height has anything to do with effectiveness in court. Whether before a jury or not. Anyone who thinks so has clearly never spent much time there. Also, effect ≠ causation.
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This. I didn't see one hot juror all summer. The few that came in always got struck for one reason or another. (Coming off as judgmental, entitled, airhead, etc.)mrloblaw wrote:I think it's more important that the jury identifies with the lawyer than that they want to shag him. How many people in the jury box do you think look like supermodels?shmoo597 wrote:You're completely wrong. Trial lawyers are very conscious of how they look and how they appear. Their role is to persuade, and a huge part of that is connecting with the jury, and a huge part of that is looking like someone the jury wants to connect with. That's why trial lawyers pay such close attention to their grooming, wardrobe, style, gestures, tone of voice, and general appearance. They can't control their height, but that doesn't mean that height is irrelevant to how a jury perceives them. If tall people are more successful in life generally (and they are), my instinct is that the effect is exaggerated in a courtroom where appearance is so central to winning.blowhard wrote: I agree that in general taller people make more money. I still don't think it translates enough to have an impact. However, I highly disagree that height has anything to do with effectiveness in court. Whether before a jury or not. Anyone who thinks so has clearly never spent much time there. Also, effect ≠ causation.
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5'9"= good
5'8"= CONGRATS! YOU'RE FUCKED!
5'8"= CONGRATS! YOU'RE FUCKED!
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how much does it hurt you?
It hurts so much - but it hurts so good!
It hurts so much - but it hurts so good!
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I'm not sure how much money an extra inch will get you, but conversely, money is known to buy you inches. In the words of Mark Cuban, "for every billion dollars I have, my dick gets 10 inches longer."MrPapagiorgio wrote:Average penis size is around 4.5-5 inches. Any info on how much more per inch people with big dicks make?shmoo597 wrote:"The truth is, tall people do make more money. They make $789 more per inch per year."
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Being 5'9 or shorter shouldn't make for much of a disadvantage. On the other hand, those lawyers who are unfortunate enough to be 6'4 or taller will likely have restricted exit options from Biglaw, as lateraling to ninja groups with those kind of stats can be quite hard I have heard.
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Obviously male height matters in law. It's why US News is including it along with LSAT and GPA for the 2012 rankings. 6'4 median or say goodbye to the T14.
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How tall is the Biebs?D. H2Oman wrote:Obviously male height matters in law. It's why US News is including it along with LSAT and GPA for the 2012 rankings. 6'4 median or say goodbye to the T14.
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If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you in law life.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
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OP, try growing some balls.
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If you're small, you don't have a strong gravitational pullTheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
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TITCR. Basically, shut it shorties.JamMasterJ wrote:If you're small, you don't have a strong gravitational pullTheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
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Small, yes. But short =/= small. This short man's (LinkRemoved) gravitational pull will obliterate your lanky ass.JamMasterJ wrote:If you're small, you don't have a strong gravitational pullTheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
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Nice straw man. I said small, not shortTheFriendlyBarber wrote:Bullshit. This short man's (LinkRemoved) gravitational pull will obliterate your lanky ass.JamMasterJ wrote:If you're small, you don't have a strong gravitational pullTheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
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short =/= small. My fat man just ate your straw man. Tough shit.JamMasterJ wrote:Nice straw man. I said small, not shortTheFriendlyBarber wrote:Bullshit. This short man's (LinkRemoved) gravitational pull will obliterate your lanky ass.JamMasterJ wrote:If you're small, you don't have a strong gravitational pullTheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
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you literally just agreed with meTheFriendlyBarber wrote:short =/= small. My fat man just ate your straw man. Tough shit.JamMasterJ wrote: Nice straw man. I said small, not short
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You guys just made me lol.
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I can't believe we're taking this tangent so seriously. But what the hell. Yes, I agree that bodies small in mass have a lesser gravitational pull than their more massive counterparts. But being short (or small in terms of height) does not mean you can't be massive otherwise. In other words, what the hell did you mean by "small"? Since this is a height-related thread, I assumed you meant "short." If not, forgive me.JamMasterJ wrote:you literally just agreed with meTheFriendlyBarber wrote:short =/= small. My fat man just ate your straw man. Tough shit.JamMasterJ wrote: Nice straw man. I said small, not short
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it's K. I meant small, not short.TheFriendlyBarber wrote:I can't believe we're taking this tangent so seriously. But what the hell. Yes, I agree that bodies small in mass have a lesser gravitational pull than their more massive counterparts. But being short (or small in terms of height) does not mean you can't be massive otherwise. In other words, what the hell did you mean by "small"? Since this is a height-related thread, I assumed you meant "short." If not, forgive me.JamMasterJ wrote:you literally just agreed with meTheFriendlyBarber wrote:short =/= small. My fat man just ate your straw man. Tough shit.JamMasterJ wrote: Nice straw man. I said small, not short
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You really don't understand that the persuasiveness of being tall and good-looking is SUBCONSCIOUS...blowhard wrote:Tall people are more successful, that doesn't mean the rest of the population agrees with them. Maybe someone on the jury got beat up a lot in high school? Nor do I think most people can accurately judge height while they are seated and the subject isn't.
Nobody thinks "I don't know how much to believe in his argument because I can't tell if he's 5'10" or 6'1". Instead, they think "I don't know why, but (tall/handsome/confident)'s argument makes more sense than (short/overweight/ugly)'s argument."
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TheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
LOL nice fairy tale. But reality is reality.
P.S. I'm 5'11
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And I'm 6'2". And A'nold is 6'4". And plenty of others here are taller still. But point being: we won't lose respect for you because you're short, but weBronx Bum wrote:TheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
LOL nice fairy tale. But reality is reality.
P.S. I'm 5'11
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TheFriendlyBarber wrote:And I'm 6'2". And A'nold is 6'4". And plenty of others here are taller still. But point being: we won't lose respect for you because you're short, but weBronx Bum wrote:TheFriendlyBarber wrote:If your height bothers you then it may very well hurt you inlawlife.
Be comfortable in your own skin--be confident--and not only will people take you seriously, but they will gravitate toward you and follow you as well.
LOL nice fairy tale. But reality is reality.
P.S. I'm 5'11willhave because you're a jackass.
Who fuckin cares about me? This question has nothing to do with me. Read the op. Where do I say me?
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fortunately I'm incredibly good lookingRVP11 wrote:You really don't understand that the persuasiveness of being tall and good-looking is SUBCONSCIOUS...blowhard wrote:Tall people are more successful, that doesn't mean the rest of the population agrees with them. Maybe someone on the jury got beat up a lot in high school? Nor do I think most people can accurately judge height while they are seated and the subject isn't.
Nobody thinks "I don't know how much to believe in his argument because I can't tell if he's 5'10" or 6'1". Instead, they think "I don't know why, but (tall/handsome/confident)'s argument makes more sense than (short/overweight/ugly)'s argument."
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