Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

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IP Lit?

Quinn - NYC
7
25%
Covington - DC
4
14%
Williams & Connolly
17
61%
 
Total votes: 28

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Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:09 pm

Which for IP lit?
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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Renzo » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:21 pm

Those aren't really IP lit shops.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby mrloblaw » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:22 pm

How has Grizz not showed up yet?

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby YourCaptain » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:22 pm

I think W&C is not a firm you turn down for IP at a non-IP boutique. I think even if I wanted IP I'd take W&C because I've heard excellent things, not only about the firm but the culture, but to each his own I suppose.



also, egregious vault trolling

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:23 pm

For IP Lit, its Quinn > W&C >>> Cov.... for overall lit, its W&C >>>>>>>> others.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:23 pm

YourCaptain wrote:I think W&C is not a firm you turn down for IP at a non-IP boutique. I think even if I wanted IP I'd take W&C because I've heard excellent things, not only about the firm but the culture, but to each his own I suppose.



also, egregious vault trolling


sorry about vault trolling

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Blindmelon » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:24 pm

Renzo wrote:Those aren't really IP lit shops.


Quinn's IP Lit is actually really strong.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Old Gregg » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:27 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
Renzo wrote:Those aren't really IP lit shops.


Quinn's IP Lit is actually really strong.


Yeah I don't know what Renzo is talking about.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:33 pm

No love 4 Covington?

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:No love 4 Covington?


Covington DC has a strong IP lit practice - both life sciences (particularly pharma) and software/electronics. They've been expanding this practice over the past few years.

On a side note - I think the value of TLS is dropping rapidly and polls like this are less than helpful because I've seen fewer and fewer 3Ls or grads posting.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Renzo » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:11 pm

Fresh Prince wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:
Renzo wrote:Those aren't really IP lit shops.


Quinn's IP Lit is actually really strong.


Yeah I don't know what Renzo is talking about.


Quinn in New York is strong for IP? Not so much.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:28 pm

Renzo wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:
Renzo wrote:Those aren't really IP lit shops.


Quinn's IP Lit is actually really strong.


Yeah I don't know what Renzo is talking about.


Quinn in New York is strong for IP? Not so much.

what is quinn NY known for?

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:34 pm

Why does W&C beat Covington? I'm a little confused.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Renzo » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:what is quinn NY known for?


General commercial and financial lit. They are one of the few firms that both has financial litigation ability and a willingness to oppose the banks, since they don't depend on them for corporate work. They also have a bunch of insurance firms as clients.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Old Gregg » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:42 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Renzo wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:Quinn's IP Lit is actually really strong.


Yeah I don't know what Renzo is talking about.


Quinn in New York is strong for IP? Not so much.

what is quinn NY known for?


They actually have a pretty strong team out in NY. Yeah, they're Band 4 on Chambers, but their general litigation is Band 3 for NYC and you suck their dick pretty nicely above.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Renzo » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:48 am

Fresh Prince wrote:They actually have a pretty strong team out in NY. Yeah, they're Band 4 on Chambers, but their general litigation is Band 3 for NYC and you suck their dick pretty nicely above.


This is an exaggeration on two fronts. First, I didn't actually say they are good at anything (and I'm not now saying they suck). I only said that the work they do is mostly general commercial, insurance/reinsurance, and a little securities lit. And saying they are "strong" in IP in New York is misleading. They might in fact have a few notable IP people in NY, but so do Cadwalader and DLA Piper, and I wouldn't call either of those places IP lit firms.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:33 am

Renzo wrote: And saying they are "strong" in IP in New York is misleading. They might in fact have a few notable IP people in NY, but so do Cadwalader and DLA Piper, and I wouldn't call either of those places IP lit firms.


Is this a joke? Look up their website. They have 20+ IP lit partners based in NY and apparently many more associates.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:22 pm

Thanks for the awesome feedback. I am, though, still perplexed why W&C beats Covington. Can anyone explain?

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:33 pm

Quinn IP Lit isn't looking good. They just got their butt kicked in the Apple/HTC litigation by Apple/Kirkland.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby mrloblaw » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Quinn IP Lit isn't looking good. They just got their butt kicked in the Apple/HTC litigation by Apple/Kirkland.


Slightly off-topic, but are major lit shops really discredited/wrecked so easily? One major loss? I really can't imagine such a thing.
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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Quinn IP Lit isn't looking good. They just got their butt kicked in the Apple/HTC litigation by Apple/Kirkland.


Such a ridiculous idea to say a firm's IP litigation isn't looking good because they lost a case, even a big one.

Since you're anonymous making such a comment, why not extrapolate on why you believe this to be the case. Explain away the logic that seems to invalidate your post.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Blindmelon » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:08 pm

mrloblaw wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Quinn IP Lit isn't looking good. They just got their butt kicked in the Apple/HTC litigation by Apple/Kirkland.


Slightly off-topic, but are major lit shops really discredited/wrecked so easily? One major loss?


No, they're not. Wasn't it Quinn/Alston & Bird v. Kirkland/WilmerHale? Thats a battle of IP lit giants - losing a case like that /= doom.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:10 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
mrloblaw wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Quinn IP Lit isn't looking good. They just got their butt kicked in the Apple/HTC litigation by Apple/Kirkland.


Slightly off-topic, but are major lit shops really discredited/wrecked so easily? One major loss?


No, they're not. Wasn't it Quinn/Alston & Bird v. Kirkland/WilmerHale? Thats a battle of IP lit giants - losing a case like that /= doom.


They represented an A-list IP client in the fiercest IP market possible and they got their shit kicked in.

It's not the fact that they lost but how badly they lost; just look it up, they did not fair well at all and it should have been a closer case than it was.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Old Gregg » Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:12 pm

No, they're not. Wasn't it Quinn/Alston & Bird v. Kirkland/WilmerHale? Thats a battle of IP lit giants - losing a case like that /= doom.


It was Quinn/Keker vs. Kirkland.

And no, Quinn's IP department is hardly in shambles from the loss.

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Re: Help Plz: Quinn NYC vs….

Postby Blindmelon » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:19 am

Fresh Prince wrote:
No, they're not. Wasn't it Quinn/Alston & Bird v. Kirkland/WilmerHale? Thats a battle of IP lit giants - losing a case like that /= doom.


It was Quinn/Keker vs. Kirkland.

And no, Quinn's IP department is hardly in shambles from the loss.


Ah I'm getting mixed up with the other big Apple case between Alston and WH.




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