How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:15 pm

TT, Median, LR, WE, IP, URM, V100...

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby IAmNietzche » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:27 pm

Julio_El_Chavo wrote:
IAmNietzche wrote:Philly T100 w/ an offer at a V60-70

Know of a kid here with an offer at a V5.


How did s/he enjoy Skadden this past summer?

Ah sorry, thought this was for 2L employment. Disregard.

EDIT: Correct, obviously.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Void » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:34 pm

Damn. It looks like it almost would have been worth becoming an Eagles fan in exchange for job prospects. Almost.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Grizz » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:TT, Median, LR, WE, IP, URM, V100...

The quadfecta!

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Blessedassurance » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:37 pm

iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?


Dude, really?

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Patriot1208 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:39 pm

iceicebaby wrote:
ExAnt3 wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?


pretty irrelevant suggestion for most of the people likely to be reading that.


It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby caputlupinum » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:45 pm

Patriot1208 wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:
ExAnt3 wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?


pretty irrelevant suggestion for most of the people likely to be reading that.


It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.


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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:39 pm

Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Gettingstarted1928 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good.


That's impressive considering how competitive NY is even when the economy is great.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Seems like the top 25% at Fordham this year killed it. Like lots of kids getting v100 jobs, few in the minority not. I know two people in the top 33%, non-lr who not only have great jobs lined up, but had several offers to choose from.

i'm pretty impressed with how well fordham did for it's top students. for everyone else (aka 300 plus students)...probably not so good terrible.


Different poster, completely agree with everything said here, but had to fix last part.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby seatown12 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:21 pm

iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

...

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

lol @ you lecturing people on the strength of your sweet paralegal gig

if you go back as a 2L w/o the grades they won't give a shit about you, they just want you to remember them fondly in case you turn out to be a baller candidate

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby tyro » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:48 pm

caputlupinum wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?


It wasn't a suggestion really, just a "hey, what did you expect?" kinda thing. I get fed up with people that think that a JD miraculously changes the rules of the working world where experience and results trump most fancy degrees. I'm sorry but honestly, people need to stop telling kids that the key to a good job is having the best numbers. /tirade

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

Most connections people make in any industry won't lead to a full time legal job offer, this includes being a paralegal.


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You don't really need actual data before saying that the majority of lower-level workers in this (or any other) industry will not end up in much more prestigious positions in that same industry down the road.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:52 pm

What is a TT, TTT, TTTTs?

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby tfer2222 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What is a TT, TTT, TTTTs?


Was anon used out of embarrassment for being a huge tls n00b?

second tier, third tier toilet, and fourth tier (reference to school rankings)

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:06 pm

Is second tier - non top 100?

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:08 pm

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby tfer2222 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is second tier - non top 100?


tiers are typically in 50's. T1- top 50. TT- 50-100

and for Further Questions ......

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby reverendt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:18 pm

I just graduated from a TT in May. Top 30% (roughly...they don't rank), journal, publication, and no real job. I work 3 days a week as a law clerk for the same small firm where I've been since 2L, but it's basically a solo shop so they don't need an attorney. I've got some small firm and clerkship applications out there....but it's bad. Worse comes to worse I'm gonna keep clerking where I am and start picking up a few clients on my own...DUIs and stuff.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Void » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:47 pm

reverendt wrote:I just graduated from a TT in May. Top 30% (roughly...they don't rank), journal, publication, and no real job. I work 3 days a week as a law clerk for the same small firm where I've been since 2L, but it's basically a solo shop so they don't need an attorney. I've got some small firm and clerkship applications out there....but it's bad. Worse comes to worse I'm gonna keep clerking where I am and start picking up a few clients on my own...DUIs and stuff.


What does your income look like right now? Obviously you don't have to answer this if you don't want to.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:40 am

To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.


I know a solo practitioner who has been practicing for about 5 years on his own and he's barely keeping his head above water. It's rough out there, even if you have experience.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Void » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.


Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby rayiner » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:54 am

Void wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.


Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.


LOL.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:18 am

Void wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:To people that have parents or something that will loan them some advertisement money: I dont understand why you dont just open your own firm, advertise in all the right places, and there you go. Sure it might be slow in the beginning, but thats business.


Clearly, this anonymous poster knows all about business.
Step 1: Get loaned some advertising money from parents, or something.
Step 2: Advertise in all the right places.
Step 3: There you go.


A law practice is the easiest business to open. With the correct knowledge and access to the search engine optimization, knowledge of how to market/advertise, anyone could be successful.

I know 8 EXTREMELY successful lawyers. 7 who opened their own firm, 1 BigLaw Associate. Out of those 8 people, the BigLaw Associate is the least successful.

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Re: How is the job hunt going for people at TT, TTT, TTTTs?

Postby kahechsof » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:34 am

seatown12 wrote:
iceicebaby wrote:Here's an interesting idea: maybe try to work and get experience in the real world before law school and build connections that will lead to future job(s) regardless of where you end up going?

...

Source: kid who graduated in 2009 and has worked as a paralegal at NYC big law firms that have told me to come back when I'm a 2L to talk to them.

lol @ you lecturing people on the strength of your sweet paralegal gig

if you go back as a 2L w/o the grades they won't give a shit about you, they just want you to remember them fondly in case you turn out to be a baller candidate

this

It will probably get you a screener, but don't expect any serious weight to be pulled, unless you have the serious numbers.




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