MrPapagiorgio wrote: Anonymous User wrote: MrPapagiorgio wrote:
SwampRat88 wrote:Folks, if you're at a TT/TTT/TTTT, you will be lucky to be working in Shitlaw. End thread.
Not that black and white, so stop with the nonsense.
Excuse me? Stop with what nonsense, exactly? What do you not understand about the job prospects for TT/TTT/TTT graduates? I'm at a low-end T2 right now, and let me assure
you, if you snag shitlaw, you should be thankful.
I am under no delusion that the job market for graduates from such schools is by any means "good." I just meant that a few other factors, such as family connections/networking, can help lead to an outcome that is not "shitlaw." For the large majority, yes, I would agree with you. Perhaps nonsense was the wrong word to use and I apologize if that caused some confusion as to what I meant. I simply meant that it is not that simple and straightforward for every graduate, especially for TTT's in secondary markets that are not dominated by better schools (TTT's in the NY metro area may be fucked, but U of Maine grads may have a better chance).
It's not even "Not good." It is awful, straight-up awful, and your thickheaded refusal to believe otherwise is mystifying. Connections are very limited in scope. You still need the credentials in the ballpark range just to get the interview.
Two things about secondary and even tertiary markets that people need to understand.
1. Secondary markets are extremely heavy on ties. Going to LS in that area is not a connection to the area
. I have several friends at schools like Kansas, Vermont, North Dakota, and Idaho. The markets care much more about your pre-LS connection to the area and give very little weight to your attendance at the LS. I had CBs in my home market where the only school is a TTT/TTTT; with my grades at my T25 I had CBs from every "major" firm in the state. I am good friends with kids at the top of the 2L class at the local school and they've all confirmed that only 4 people in the class have an SA. At two of the CBs I saw 1 kid from the local school but 2 others from MVP; people who go to "good" schools can easily reach back home and outclass the top students from the local TTT.
2. Secondary markets are too small to handle an influx of new grads. Many of the markets where there's only a TTT/TTTT have spots open for maybe 50 entry-level grads per year between local government, state court clerkships, and firm jobs. If you have a tiny class (140-190) that means anywhere from 2/3 to 3/4 of your grads don't get jobs, and the ones who do are at the top of the class or hustled like hell to get them.
People need to stop believing that it's acceptable to go to a TTT if it's the only school in the state. With the way the market is now, grads from better schools will try to reach back home and they will beat out kids from the local schools for those precious few spots.
Also flcath, I hope you end out alright man.