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Sopranos Law

Postby Neil Mink, Esq. » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:58 am

For fans of the hit HBO-series The Sopranos, any idea of how one goes about making a career out of defending mobsters? Are there real jobs in this field? I know they mentioned the RICO act quite frequently on the show, so I assume you would need to be familiar with federal racketeering law. I think one of the lawyers on the show was a graduate of Cardozo, so perhaps it's not really about where you went to school. Personally, I don't think Tony and gang would feel comfortable around any ivy-league educated lawyers.

I know this sounds kind of ridiculous, but I truly am curious as to what kind of jobs one might find in this field. I bet the pay isn't bad either. Any ideas?

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby 20121109 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:04 am

Nice job of alting.

DON'T YOU HAVE ANY MONEY?

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:06 am

I actually worked for and know people who did this, but I'm gonna be as unhelpful as possible.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby YourCaptain » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:08 am

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
DON'T YOU HAVE ANY MONEY?


HE WAS BORN AND BRED FOR SUCCESS AND ACHIEVEMENT

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby 20121109 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:19 am

Sirhcyam wrote:
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Nice job of alting.

DON'T YOU HAVE ANY MONEY?


Honestly, I don't see what's wrong with "alting." Because of a silly thread I created that most people found entertaining, I am no longer taken seriously and no one answers my questions. To get something out of this board, I created a new name. I don't see what's wrong with that. Can someone please answer my question, or at least allow me to create a new name?


If you want a new name you formally ask for one via PM to one of the mods. You failed to adhere to the proper procedure, so I banned your alt. Our policy is articulated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=146657

I suggest we continue this conversation via PM.

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Kilpatrick » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:22 am

Even if you get a new name we're still going to know it's you every time there is a thread that mentions New Jersey and includes something about how "it's not about where you went to school"

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:41 am

MODS = GODS

And pretty smart and intuitive too. I assume they can see IPs but one would have to suspect an alt beforehand.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:46 am

Sirhcyam wrote:
Kilpatrick wrote:Even if you get a new name we're still going to know it's you every time there is a thread that mentions New Jersey and includes something about how "it's not about where you went to school"


The school thing wasn't really the point of this thread. I just wanted to know your opinion of this kind of legal field. The only reason I mentioned Cardozo was because that was where one of the lawyers on the show went to school. Are you guys willing to answer my questions or no?

It's not where you go to school, it's who you know.

edit: you're looking for a justification to go to Cardozo, so knock yourself out.
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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby FeelTheHeat » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:49 am

Grizz wrote:I actually worked for and know people who did this, but I'm gonna be as unhelpful as possible.


I'm so happy my morning started with reading this post

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby chrisokc » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:57 am

Neil Mink, Esq. wrote:For fans of the hit HBO-series The Sopranos, any idea of how one goes about making a career out of defending mobsters? Are there real jobs in this field? I know they mentioned the RICO act quite frequently on the show, so I assume you would need to be familiar with federal racketeering law. I think one of the lawyers on the show was a graduate of Cardozo, so perhaps it's not really about where you went to school. Personally, I don't think Tony and gang would feel comfortable around any ivy-league educated lawyers.

I know this sounds kind of ridiculous, but I truly am curious as to what kind of jobs one might find in this field. I bet the pay isn't bad either. Any ideas?

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/07/garden/at-the-office-with-bruce-cutler-even-mob-lawyers-get-the-blues.html?src=pm

http://www.cutlerandparlatore.com/

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:29 am

Sirhcyam wrote:
Grizz wrote:
Sirhcyam wrote:
Kilpatrick wrote:Even if you get a new name we're still going to know it's you every time there is a thread that mentions New Jersey and includes something about how "it's not about where you went to school"


The school thing wasn't really the point of this thread. I just wanted to know your opinion of this kind of legal field. The only reason I mentioned Cardozo was because that was where one of the lawyers on the show went to school. Are you guys willing to answer my questions or no?

It's not where you go to school, it's who you know.

edit: you're looking for a justification to go to Cardozo, so knock yourself out.


You knew people who worked in that field? That's pretty cool. Did they enjoy it? Was it stressful knowing that your client is capable of a violent outburst (or worse) at any moment? It sounds fascinating.

They enjoyed it. They didn't do exclusively Sicilians. We had biker gangs, street gangs, Russians, and Mexicans as well. They are probably less likely to have a violent outburst than the murderers or other violent offenders we used to defend. Organized crime is a business.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:35 am


If I get to credibly wear a suit like that, I'll defend mobsters.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:41 am

Also, no one had such an outburst. You don't want those people as clients.

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:32 am

Some of the more shady people I know from high school tell me I need to specialize in defense of drug dealers. Allegedly those guys will pay anything and go to any lengths to beat their charges.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby chrisokc » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:53 am

Tom Hagen in The Godfather was an attorney and consigliere to the Family.

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Re: Sopranos Law

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:57 pm

Sirhcyam wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Some of the more shady people I know from high school tell me I need to specialize in defense of drug dealers. Allegedly those guys will pay anything and go to any lengths to beat their charges.


I don't know if I'd want to defend drug dealers. They're a little more unpredictable. At least the Mafia lives by a code.


As glamorous as the Mafia is, they are bad criminals that do bad things. I don't think their code precludes them from doing much.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:07 pm

Tom Joad wrote:Some of the more shady people I know from high school tell me I need to specialize in defense of drug dealers. Allegedly those guys will pay anything and go to any lengths to beat their charges.

Depends what the charges are. Often they can't afford you. There's a reason they are drug dealers. Possession WITS? Probably can't afford you. Low level shit. Now someone who gets hit with armed trafficking? Yeah they will do almost anything to beat that.

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Re: Sopranos Law

Postby Grizz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:08 pm

Sirhcyam wrote:It sounds awesome. Did it pay well? How did they manage to get the job?

Yes.

Cardozo's Mafia Law program. How the hell do you think? Networking and reputation.

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Re: Sopranos Law

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