Ranking the top litigation boutiques

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:29 pm

PPP are highest at Susman so it should be the top.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:33 pm

Boies or Quinn?

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:34 am

Anonymous User wrote:Boies or Quinn?


Please. Are you serious? Boies.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:Boies or Quinn?


I would consider both big firms not boutiques. They're way too leveraged to be boutiques.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Citizen Genet » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:01 am

Stupid question. I was looking at Kellogg's website and saw "Staff Attorneys" listed. What are staff attorneys?

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:54 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:Stupid question. I was looking at Kellogg's website and saw "Staff Attorneys" listed. What are staff attorneys?


they're usually TTT grads who don't get paid $160k+ and do work usually given to contract attorneys.

you don't want to be one of them

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby ph14 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:$125,000 signing bonus at Kellogg Huber. The hours there are apparently just as long as you would expect to find at Bartlit, Susman, etc.


Bumping this for OCI 2012. Can anyone confirm this $125k signing bonus?!

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby bdubs » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:43 am

ph14 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:$125,000 signing bonus at Kellogg Huber. The hours there are apparently just as long as you would expect to find at Bartlit, Susman, etc.


Bumping this for OCI 2012. Can anyone confirm this $125k signing bonus?!


It's a post clerkship bonus (which are typically 50k anyway), and ATL said it was restricted to COA clerks in 2007.

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http://abovethelaw.com/2007/03/skaddenf ... ping-pace/

Does Kellogg Huber do 2L OCI at Harvard?

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby ph14 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:13 am

bdubs wrote:
ph14 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:$125,000 signing bonus at Kellogg Huber. The hours there are apparently just as long as you would expect to find at Bartlit, Susman, etc.


Bumping this for OCI 2012. Can anyone confirm this $125k signing bonus?!


It's a post clerkship bonus (which are typically 50k anyway), and ATL said it was restricted to COA clerks in 2007.

--LinkRemoved--

http://abovethelaw.com/2007/03/skaddenf ... ping-pace/

Does Kellogg Huber do 2L OCI at Harvard?


Nope, or at least they aren't listed.

Thanks for the info re: the bonus.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:05 am

Don't overlook MoloLamken.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:08 am

Are you a former mod who just bumped a two year old thread?

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:19 am

Mal Reynolds wrote:Are you a former mod who just bumped a two year old thread?

definitely doesn't work at mololamken

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:22 am

Anonymous User wrote:The President of the United States was a lawyer. The CEO of Goldman Sachs went to law school.

Don't blame the legal profession as a whole cause you thought by going to a TTT shitlaw degree mill you would join the upper crust of society.

Your right there are alot of low lifes in the legal profession unfortunately. But in terms of overall prestige, only medicine has more lay prestige. Parents don't tell their kids they want them to grow up to be i-bankers or hedge fund managers, they tell their kids they want them to grow up and be doctors or lawyers.

Sure no one knows what Williams & Connolly is, but when you pull up in a porsche convertible with a $1,000 suit and a rolex, people get the idea that your a big shot. I wouldn't worry to much about comparing oneself to finance guys or CEO's. I think making more money than 99.9% of the rest of humanity should be good enough for most people.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:31 am

fats provolone wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Are you a former mod who just bumped a two year old thread?

definitely doesn't work at mololamken


Most prestigious firm named after a Battlestar Galactica legal scholar.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Old Gregg » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:40 am

Desert Fox wrote:
fats provolone wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Are you a former mod who just bumped a two year old thread?

definitely doesn't work at mololamken


Most prestigious firm named after a Battlestar Galactica legal scholar.


underrated

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:53 am

i chortled

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:03 pm

If you are considering litigation boutiques in Texas, you should also look at McKool Smith. While they are known for their IP work, they do much more than that. Also, they make a point to give young associates tons of experience right out of the gate. I know several associates there who have several depositions and presented oral arguments at Markman hearings within the first 1-2 years at the firm. Per their website, first year compensation is $177,500 (including signing bonus). It looks like they have offices in Texas, NYC, California, and DC.

I came across Vault specialty rankings for lit boutiques. While I'm not sure how meaningful the rankings are, they at least list several of the firms that many would consider to be the best:

http://www.vault.com/company-rankings/l ... RankID=276

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Jon_Snow » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:11 pm

is there a reason why OP couldn't just look on Vault for this information?

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby sundance95 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:18 pm

Jon_Snow wrote:is there a reason why OP couldn't just look on Vault for this information?

bc vault rankings are 100% predicated on NYC transactional biglaw, and do not mean shyte for lit, let alone boutique lit

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Old Gregg » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:19 pm

Jon_Snow wrote:is there a reason why OP couldn't just look on Vault for this information?


Probably because Vault also sucks for this information, or maybe he just wanted to start a discussion on it.

But if you're asking why people on TLS create stupid threads (i.e., threads that could easily be answered by a little google research) and how these threads can be started by seemingly intelligent people, you've asked a question for the ages.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:20 pm

Jon_Snow wrote:is there a reason why OP couldn't just look on Vault for this information?

yea what say you, anonymous user from three years ago??

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:47 pm

I know this is super old, but it does raise the question of what we'd call a "lit boutique." Traditional wisdom would suggest Boies Schiller, Quinn, MTO and Irell fall outside that category, whereas McKool, Susman, Keker, Kellogg Huber, ect. would fall within.

tl;dr of thread, it OP was ultimately choosing between Quinn and Boies, they were never looking at lit boutiques and this entire self-promotion was totally unnecessary

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:35 pm

dovel and luner

We consider law students or attorneys with less than 2 years of experience with the following academic credentials:

Top 10% at Harvard Law School or Stanford Law School
Top 5% at all other top 10 law schools
We do not require (or give preference to) an engineering or science background.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:38 pm

That might very we'll be a great firm, but just lol at using their selection criteria as a stand in for quality.

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Re: Ranking the top litigation boutiques

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:47 pm

it is a good firm but 8 lawyers so gl getting a job there




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