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O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:27 pm

Is O'Melveny a dangerous choice? Loved the firm and people, but don't want to join a firm that's going to fold in a year...

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:32 pm

NY or LA?

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:39 pm

LA

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:43 pm

I've heard that a good amount of the O'MM corporate partners in LA office were quite upset with the firm's focus on NYC. So maybe corporate work at O'MM in LA might not be a good idea?

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:52 pm

I took an OMM offer. They are fine

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I took an OMM offer. They are fine


Of course they are fine. And Latham 2L's will say that Latham is fine. Of course you'll say they're fine.

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:48 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I took an OMM offer. They are fine


Of course they are fine. And Latham 2L's will say that Latham is fine. Of course you'll say they're fine.


You got me.

OP there is ample evidence on this forum and elsewhere for you to do your diligence about the recent partner departures. I did and I accepted OMM from among multiple offers.

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:I took an OMM offer. They are fine


Of course they are fine. And Latham 2L's will say that Latham is fine. Of course you'll say they're fine.


You got me.

OP there is ample evidence on this forum and elsewhere for you to do your diligence about the recent partner departures. I did and I accepted OMM from among multiple offers.


Hm, mind if I ask why then? I'm not OP, sorry, but I've done an okay amount of due diligence on it as well, and it seems rather precarious. Not saying they aren't fine (including the near future), but more so than other firms, it seems to have a greater potential of not being fine. Or just ambiguous. Some say x, some say y. Both have some evidence backing them up (or just interpret it differently) -- both sides not completely impartial. Just somewhat of an unknown, no?

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:I took an OMM offer. They are fine


Of course they are fine. And Latham 2L's will say that Latham is fine. Of course you'll say they're fine.


You got me.

OP there is ample evidence on this forum and elsewhere for you to do your diligence about the recent partner departures. I did and I accepted OMM from among multiple offers.


Hm, mind if I ask why then? I'm not OP, sorry, but I've done an okay amount of due diligence on it as well, and it seems rather precarious. Not saying they aren't fine (including the near future), but more so than other firms, it seems to have a greater potential of not being fine. Or just ambiguous. Some say x, some say y. Both have some evidence backing them up (or just interpret it differently) -- both sides not completely impartial. Just somewhat of an unknown, no?


interested in this as well

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I took an OMM offer. They are fine


Of course they are fine. And Latham 2L's will say that Latham is fine. Of course you'll say they're fine.


You got me.

OP there is ample evidence on this forum and elsewhere for you to do your diligence about the recent partner departures. I did and I accepted OMM from among multiple offers.


Hm, mind if I ask why then? I'm not OP, sorry, but I've done an okay amount of due diligence on it as well, and it seems rather precarious. Not saying they aren't fine (including the near future), but more so than other firms, it seems to have a greater potential of not being fine. Or just ambiguous. Some say x, some say y. Both have some evidence backing them up (or just interpret it differently) -- both sides not completely impartial. Just somewhat of an unknown, no?


Ask the firm about them. Ask about each individual partner departure. Many were part of the bad firm merger, some went in-house w/ current clients, some partners left for other firms (which happens naturally), others went to government. When you get the offer ask them how revenues are, how many hours the associates are billing, etc. I found them to be remarkably candid about the situation (they know about the bad press). If you feel bad about the situation then go elsewhere but don't base your decision off of internet speculation.

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:24 pm

got no horse in this race. But "ask[ing] a firm about them" sounds like the most unsound of all potential strategies. I've met dozens of law firm people who preface their comment by saying "I'll be candid" and go on and deliver a line of unhelpful b/s.

They work there dude. The only ones you're going to hear candid stuff from are people heading out the door. But even those guys are biased the other way. Just go work there, and find out yourself. If you get laid off, just find a job elsewhere. You can be on your ass no matter which firm you go to. Heck, Williams & Connolly could go bankrupt in the next 10 years. who knows?

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:got no horse in this race. But "ask[ing] a firm about them" sounds like the most unsound of all potential strategies. I've met dozens of law firm people who preface their comment by saying "I'll be candid" and go on and deliver a line of unhelpful b/s.

They work there dude. The only ones you're going to hear candid stuff from are people heading out the door. But even those guys are biased the other way. Just go work there, and find out yourself. If you get laid off, just find a job elsewhere. You can be on your ass no matter which firm you go to. Heck, Williams & Connolly could go bankrupt in the next 10 years. who knows?


+1. Of course asking the firm's people will give positive feedback. OMM is an enormous firm, and some say it is almost too enormous for sustainability purposes. Not saying it will go Howrey on you any time soon, but the concern has its merits. Speculations don't just come out of people's asses. Check out AmLaw100 to see recent annual revenue and profits per partner numbers.

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Re: O'Melveny?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ask the firm about them. Ask about each individual partner departure. Many were part of the bad firm merger, some went in-house w/ current clients, some partners left for other firms (which happens naturally), others went to government. When you get the offer ask them how revenues are, how many hours the associates are billing, etc. I found them to be remarkably candid about the situation (they know about the bad press). If you feel bad about the situation then go elsewhere but don't base your decision off of internet speculation.


But those are exactly the things I looked at...and that's what worried me.

Here: http://abovethelaw.com/2011/06/whats-go ... eny-myers/




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