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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Dear TLS,
I was just being sarcastic when I suggested we add a line for Thank-You notes, but apparently it has been catching on. Thank you for taking my advice seriously even when it was unnecessary.
All the best,
Desertlaw
I was just being sarcastic when I suggested we add a line for Thank-You notes, but apparently it has been catching on. Thank you for taking my advice seriously even when it was unnecessary.
All the best,
Desertlaw
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Initial interviews:28
Callbacks:21
School:CCN
Offers: Had already received several, including V5, but cancelled/declined remaining after receiving offer from my top choice
Grades: Top 10%
Background: Very non-traditional and not of the sort that would necessarily be helpful in securing employment(i.e. not finance or consulting)
Journal: Hell no--I wanted to enjoy my remaining 2 years and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
No thank yous.
Callbacks:21
School:CCN
Offers: Had already received several, including V5, but cancelled/declined remaining after receiving offer from my top choice
Grades: Top 10%
Background: Very non-traditional and not of the sort that would necessarily be helpful in securing employment(i.e. not finance or consulting)
Journal: Hell no--I wanted to enjoy my remaining 2 years and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
No thank yous.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Helmholtz included it in the OP for lulz. Now it appears every time someone posts because they copy it paste the template from the OP.desertlaw wrote:Dear TLS,
I was just being sarcastic when I suggested we add a line for Thank-You notes, but apparently it has been catching on. Thank you for taking my advice seriously even when it was unnecessary.
All the best,
Desertlaw
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
In retrospect, incredibly wise decision.Anonymous User wrote:Initial interviews:28
Callbacks:21
School:CCN
Offers: Had already received several, including V5, but cancelled/declined remaining after receiving offer from my top choice
Grades: Top 10%
Background: Very non-traditional and not of the sort that would necessarily be helpful in securing employment(i.e. not finance or consulting)
Journal: Hell no--I wanted to enjoy my remaining 2 years and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
No thank yous.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: GULC
Market(s): NYC, Secondary
Approximate class rank: Not Top 1/3, Above Median
Law review: Secondary crap journal
Work experience: No
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact (diversity, etc. or whatever, really)?: Consider myself likable and a good interviewer?
Interviewing skills/strategy: Be normal
Screening interviews: 15
Mass mails: Dozens, mostly home market
Callbacks received: 2
Callbacks accepted: 2
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (V10, V50)
Dings: Obviously all of the screeners, plus the mass mailings
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2 or 3 from EIW, scores of mass mail
Thank-you notes sent: Yes, emails
Market(s): NYC, Secondary
Approximate class rank: Not Top 1/3, Above Median
Law review: Secondary crap journal
Work experience: No
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact (diversity, etc. or whatever, really)?: Consider myself likable and a good interviewer?
Interviewing skills/strategy: Be normal
Screening interviews: 15
Mass mails: Dozens, mostly home market
Callbacks received: 2
Callbacks accepted: 2
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (V10, V50)
Dings: Obviously all of the screeners, plus the mass mailings
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2 or 3 from EIW, scores of mass mail
Thank-you notes sent: Yes, emails
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: MVP
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: N/A - Transfer from T2 (Top 3%)
Law review: Secondary journal (original school law review)
Work experience: Little, not relevant to law.
IP background: Yes, didn't apply to boutiques though.
Anything else that might have an impact: Nope
Screening Interviews: 27
Mass mails: 23
Callbacks received: 10
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (1 V20, 1 V60)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? many mass mails never responded. Withdrew from one firm post-cb that was taking forever to reach a decision.
Thank-you notes sent: Not a single one.
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: N/A - Transfer from T2 (Top 3%)
Law review: Secondary journal (original school law review)
Work experience: Little, not relevant to law.
IP background: Yes, didn't apply to boutiques though.
Anything else that might have an impact: Nope
Screening Interviews: 27
Mass mails: 23
Callbacks received: 10
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 (1 V20, 1 V60)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? many mass mails never responded. Withdrew from one firm post-cb that was taking forever to reach a decision.
Thank-you notes sent: Not a single one.
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School: Midwest Tier 1
Market(s): Specific secondary
Approximate class rank: Below Median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: Mike Rowe stuff
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact (diversity, etc. or whatever, really)?: From the specific secondary market
Interviewing skills/strategy: Be myself and hype my ties
Screening interviews: 2
Mass mails: No point
Callbacks received: 1
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (NLJ 250)
Dings: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? N/A
Thank-you notes sent: Yes
Only got 2 interviews out of OCI, but made my interviews count (I guess I interview really well). No nepotism/Daddy is a partner, I just peppered every employer at OCI and hoped for the best. I think my success comes down to staying in my home market for school and the weight that secondary markets place on ties.
Market(s): Specific secondary
Approximate class rank: Below Median
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: Mike Rowe stuff
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact (diversity, etc. or whatever, really)?: From the specific secondary market
Interviewing skills/strategy: Be myself and hype my ties
Screening interviews: 2
Mass mails: No point
Callbacks received: 1
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (NLJ 250)
Dings: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? N/A
Thank-you notes sent: Yes
Only got 2 interviews out of OCI, but made my interviews count (I guess I interview really well). No nepotism/Daddy is a partner, I just peppered every employer at OCI and hoped for the best. I think my success comes down to staying in my home market for school and the weight that secondary markets place on ties.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
one shot-one kill. kudos to you and congrats!Anonymous User wrote:Callbacks received: 1
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (NLJ 250)
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
+1 that's awesomemonkey85 wrote:one shot-one kill. kudos to you and congrats!Anonymous User wrote:Callbacks received: 1
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (NLJ 250)
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
I did this too and have a friend who had 2 cbs/1 offer. When you have less, it almost gives you more motivation to prepare. High stakes but the feeling of dodging the bullet is one that will probably stay with me for life. It's humbling.minnbills wrote:+1 that's awesomemonkey85 wrote:one shot-one kill. kudos to you and congrats!Anonymous User wrote:Callbacks received: 1
Callbacks accepted: 1
Offers w/vault ranges: 1 (NLJ 250)
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: GULC
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 1/3
Law review: A "well regarded" secondary, for what it's worth.
Anything else that might have an impact: Personable and less awkward than most law students?
Screening Interviews: 15 (Lottery, not pre-select)
Mass mails: 0
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 3
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Top 1/3
Law review: A "well regarded" secondary, for what it's worth.
Anything else that might have an impact: Personable and less awkward than most law students?
Screening Interviews: 15 (Lottery, not pre-select)
Mass mails: 0
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 3
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
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School: CCN
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Nope
Work experience: Straight from undergrad
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact: Nope
Screening Interviews: 18
Mass mails: Lots
Callbacks received: 4
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 2, V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Lots from mass mails and 2 that I didn't hear back from before I accepted post callback
Thank-you notes sent: Yes
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: Median
Law review: Nope
Work experience: Straight from undergrad
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact: Nope
Screening Interviews: 18
Mass mails: Lots
Callbacks received: 4
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault ranges: 2, V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Lots from mass mails and 2 that I didn't hear back from before I accepted post callback
Thank-you notes sent: Yes
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: CCN
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: median w/upward trend
Law review: nope
Work experience: several years
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: very unique WE
Interviewing skills/strategy: career services told me i was pretty good.
Screening Interviews: 22
Mass mails: 40
Callbacks received: 3
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 4 screeners, all but 2 of the mass mails so far
Thank-you notes sent: yes, nice ones.
fml.
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: median w/upward trend
Law review: nope
Work experience: several years
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: very unique WE
Interviewing skills/strategy: career services told me i was pretty good.
Screening Interviews: 22
Mass mails: 40
Callbacks received: 3
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 4 screeners, all but 2 of the mass mails so far
Thank-you notes sent: yes, nice ones.
fml.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Anonymous User wrote:School: CCN
Market(s): NYC
Approximate class rank: median w/upward trend
Law review: nope
Work experience: several years
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: very unique WE
Interviewing skills/strategy: career services told me i was pretty good.
Screening Interviews: 22
Mass mails: 40
Callbacks received: 3
Callbacks accepted: 3
Offers w/vault ranges: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 4 screeners, all but 2 of the mass mails so far
Thank-you notes sent: yes, nice ones.
fml.
What do you think happened? How old are you? What V range were your callbacks?
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
My very first few exam grades were very low, by the end of the year grades were quite high, but first grades on my transcript are low so maybe that stuck out. I've been out of school a long time. I'm definitely not aggressive, but I'm friendly and easy going and I think that came across in my interviews.Anonymous User wrote:
What do you think happened? How old are you? What V range were your callbacks?
Late 20s.
V20, V30, V40
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: 60s
Market(s): Regional
Approximate class rank: Top 15-20%
Law review: secondary
Work experience: no
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: lifelong resident of state
Interviewing skills/strategy: Nothing overly special
Screening Interviews: 7
Mass mails: Mailed about 20, got interviews from 2
Callbacks received: 5 (3 OCI; 2 Mail)
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? a few
Thank-you notes sent: sometimes.
Very few people have offers at my TT. Things are not looking very good.
Market(s): Regional
Approximate class rank: Top 15-20%
Law review: secondary
Work experience: no
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: lifelong resident of state
Interviewing skills/strategy: Nothing overly special
Screening Interviews: 7
Mass mails: Mailed about 20, got interviews from 2
Callbacks received: 5 (3 OCI; 2 Mail)
Callbacks accepted: 5
Offers w/vault ranges: 0
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? a few
Thank-you notes sent: sometimes.
Very few people have offers at my TT. Things are not looking very good.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: Southern T30 - "W&L, W&M, UNC, UGa, Emory"
Market(s): Southeat, mid-atlantic, eastern
Approximate class rank: 15%
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: A lot of it
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact: I have an interesting background
Screening Interviews: 31
Mass mails: TONS
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 6
Offers w/vault ranges: 3 - None in the V100 - all of the "other firms." Big firms in their own respective markets, but not really in big legal markets though.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Who knows? With the amount of mass mails I sent out, I have no clue. Every day, my mailbox was full of rejections.
Thank-you notes sent: Definitely. It became clear in the south, you must send them after a callback. I found it a good idea to send them even after screeners to the southern firms.
Market(s): Southeat, mid-atlantic, eastern
Approximate class rank: 15%
Law review: Secondary Journal
Work experience: A lot of it
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact: I have an interesting background
Screening Interviews: 31
Mass mails: TONS
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 6
Offers w/vault ranges: 3 - None in the V100 - all of the "other firms." Big firms in their own respective markets, but not really in big legal markets though.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Who knows? With the amount of mass mails I sent out, I have no clue. Every day, my mailbox was full of rejections.
Thank-you notes sent: Definitely. It became clear in the south, you must send them after a callback. I found it a good idea to send them even after screeners to the southern firms.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School: MVPB
Market(s): NYC, CA
Approximate class rank: top 5-8% (guesstimate)
Law review: yes
Work experience: no
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: 1L SA
Interviewing skills/strategy: be fun and develop rapport
Screening Interviews: 20
Mass mails: 10-15, led to 3 CB's
Callbacks received: 20 (17 OCI; 3 Mass mail)
Callbacks accepted: 12
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 V3; all others above V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? a lot from mass mail
Thank-you notes sent: almost always, it's just polite
Market(s): NYC, CA
Approximate class rank: top 5-8% (guesstimate)
Law review: yes
Work experience: no
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact: 1L SA
Interviewing skills/strategy: be fun and develop rapport
Screening Interviews: 20
Mass mails: 10-15, led to 3 CB's
Callbacks received: 20 (17 OCI; 3 Mass mail)
Callbacks accepted: 12
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 V3; all others above V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? a lot from mass mail
Thank-you notes sent: almost always, it's just polite
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Is the V70 in Chicago by any chance?Anonymous User wrote:School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Anonymous User wrote:Is the V70 in Chicago by any chance?Anonymous User wrote:School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Did you try for Chicago? Just trying to figure out whether top 10% people at U of Illinois have a shot there or not.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Is the V70 in Chicago by any chance?Anonymous User wrote:School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
Nope.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Anonymous User wrote:Did you try for Chicago? Just trying to figure out whether top 10% people at U of Illinois have a shot there or not.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Is the V70 in Chicago by any chance?Anonymous User wrote:School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
Nope.
Yeah, I had some bites in Chicago but I had some good reasons to be in another major Midwest market and the offer I accepted is from my first choice firm. Most of the people I know from Illinois who have biglaw offers have Chicago offers: it's definitely our primary market and top 10% should be able to get there.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
If you're top 10% at Illinois you better want Chicago. I was top 5% at Illinois, wanted a different market but could only get an offer in Chicago.Anonymous User wrote:Did you try for Chicago? Just trying to figure out whether top 10% people at U of Illinois have a shot there or not.Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Is the V70 in Chicago by any chance?Anonymous User wrote:School*: Illinois
Market(s): Midwest. St. Louis preference.
Approximate class rank: 5-10%
Law review: No.
Work experience: Good internships in undergrad.
IP background: No.
Anything else that might have an impact? (diversity, etc. or whatever, really): I'm a cool dude.
Screening Interviews: 25
Mass mails: A few.
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers: 1 (V70), withdrew from remaining.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback?: I withdrew
Thank-you notes sent: To the recruiter only.
Nope.
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Re: Final OCI results: 2011 Version
Yep, I'm still struggling to get a job outside Chicago.Anonymous User wrote:
If you're top 10% at Illinois you better want Chicago. I was top 5% at Illinois, wanted a different market but could only get an offer in Chicago.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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