Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

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Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland NY?

Poll ended at Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:55 pm

Kirkland
14
70%
Cahill
6
30%
 
Total votes: 20

afinnst
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Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby afinnst » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:55 pm

Offers for Summer Associate at both Kirkland NY and Cahill..thinking that Kirkland is more prestigious but Cahill is more of a lifestyle firm...need to decide by Friday...anyone that has experience summering at either one would be much appreciated!

EDIT:

Thinking corporate and bankruptcy....

I don't think I want to work in NYC in the long term...maybe lateral to Atlanta or Northern Cal.

Anyone have any info on the likelihood of getting a full time offer after a summer at either of these firms?
Last edited by afinnst on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:07 pm

afinnst wrote:Offers for Summer Associate at both Kirkland NY and Cahill..thinking that Kirkland is more prestigious but Cahill is more of a lifestyle firm...need to decide by Friday...anyone that has experience summering at either one would be much appreciated!


I love Cahill and hate Kirkland, but Cahill is NOT a lifestyle firm at all. Especially if you do corporate.

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:12 pm

Cahill's not a lifestyle firm. Seems kinda like an old boys club. My friend said something about some of the people there being racist, too (his friend's dad is a partner).

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby afinnst » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
afinnst wrote:Offers for Summer Associate at both Kirkland NY and Cahill..thinking that Kirkland is more prestigious but Cahill is more of a lifestyle firm...need to decide by Friday...anyone that has experience summering at either one would be much appreciated!


I love Cahill and hate Kirkland, but Cahill is NOT a lifestyle firm at all. Especially if you do corporate.



Why do you hate Kirkland? DO you have experience at both/either of these firms?

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
afinnst wrote:Offers for Summer Associate at both Kirkland NY and Cahill..thinking that Kirkland is more prestigious but Cahill is more of a lifestyle firm...need to decide by Friday...anyone that has experience summering at either one would be much appreciated!


I love Cahill and hate Kirkland, but Cahill is NOT a lifestyle firm at all. Especially if you do corporate.


I just summered at Cahill and this is definitely true. Those mid-year bonuses were because associates were getting crushed with hours. Unless you are really sure you want to do cap markets/high yield work, Kirkland has much better name-recognition outside of NYC (if you ever want to lateral elsewhere). How did you like the people at each firm? I think Cahill tried to get rid of some of the more asshole partners/get them to tone down, so there's only a couple you really have to avoid as an associate. For the most part, the people I worked with were pretty down to earth and made it clear that your work is pretty much what matters.

edit: with your edit, I would say Kirkland. Fyi Cahill's offer rate this year was 100% though and they're only no-offered one person in the past 4 years (during the height of the recession)

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:11 pm

Have an SA offer @ Cahill (and other firms) as well. Would love to hear more opinions about the firm from past SA's. Thus far I've genuinely liked everyone that I've met with, but not sure if cap markets is what I'm interested in. Considering SRZ and Chadbourne as well. Thoughts?

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:04 pm

This is an earlier anon: I have an immediate family member that just finished her first year as an associate at Cahill. Request a PM non-anon (if possible) and I will give as much information as I possibly can (though second hand, obviously). I'll also give my thoughts on K&E with a caveat my dislike is mostly for the Chicago office and is (somewhat) irrational.

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby imchuckbass58 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:15 pm

If you're interested in general corporate and bankruptcy, Kirkland is a pretty easy choice, if you can deal with the rep of the firm as a shark tank (Cahill will probably also work you hard, but Kirkland has a rep for being cutthroat as well). Kirkland is arguably the best bankruptcy firm in the country (along with Skadden and Weil). Kirkland also probably has better national reach.

Cahill's corporate department really is strong in (and does a ton of) one thing, which is high-yield debt offerings. If that's what you're into, great, but for anything else, Kirkland is probably better positioned, all other things equal (but, culturally, all other things may not be equal).

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby imchuckbass58 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Have an SA offer @ Cahill (and other firms) as well. Would love to hear more opinions about the firm from past SA's. Thus far I've genuinely liked everyone that I've met with, but not sure if cap markets is what I'm interested in. Considering SRZ and Chadbourne as well. Thoughts?


Well, for SRZ are you sure that hedge fund work is what you're interested in? Schulte is arguably more focused on funds work than Cahill is on high yield cap markets.

I think you should probably eliminate Chadbourne (just not on the same level in terms of work caliber and exit options as Cahill especially, and SRZ). Then pick based on culture and whether you want a firm that's heavily focused on hedge funds or high yield offerings.

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Re: Cahill Gordon v. Kirkland in NY

Postby gators88 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This is an earlier anon: I have an immediate family member that just finished her first year as an associate at Cahill. Request a PM non-anon (if possible) and I will give as much information as I possibly can (though second hand, obviously). I'll also give my thoughts on K&E with a caveat my dislike is mostly for the Chicago office and is (somewhat) irrational.


Can you PM me, would love to hear about your family member's summer at C. Thanks.




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